How to stick it to the poor: A congressional strategy

[Old Bookaroo]

Why choose between under-educating children and taking the food out of their tiny mouths?

The 113th Congress has stuck it to the poor at pretty much every opportunity. In fact, if you take all their past and future plans into account, it looks like they have accomplished that rare feat: To close in on enacting an overarching, radical agenda without control of the Senate or the presidency. How did they do it? Probably by escaping scrutiny through a piecemeal approach to legislation, a president who is willing to meet them halfway, and one diabolic word: Sequester.
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How to stick it to the poor: A congressional strategy - The Week

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

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[smokeythecat]

Nope, that's just backwards. The pres and senate just did the poor in by giving them Obamacards, the paper that gets you nothing, and congress didn't help, either. When the house of cards collapses its not going to be pretty, case in point: Detroit.

 

[Dave44]

Lol. Yeah I saw this headline on yahoo too! A fabrication meant for the uninformed. Lol

 

[UncleMatt]

I saw this article too Bookaroo, thanks for posting it here.

 

[Native Floridian]

The republicans have always been for supporting big business at the expense of the poor. Thus the tax cuts of a decade ago and the subsidies that continue today. These same congressman can justify handing money to some of the richest corporations on the planet while telling their neediest citizens they don't deserve any help.

 

[Peyton Manning]

are they still giving subsidies to oil companies? yeah they need it

it's ok us poor are used to it

 

[Old Bookaroo]

jeff-gordon:

Apparently it's OK to pay large multi-state farming corporations not to grow crops.

But if the Federal government puts out money so children can eat, not so much...

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[Peyton Manning]

I'd like to see them stop all subsidies for a time, then decide if any are needed

 

[Native Floridian]

From the living Bible

John 3:17 But if someone is supposed to be a Christian, and has money enough to live well, and sees a brother in need,and won't help him - how can God's love be within him.

Most of the congressman with their fingers on the Nay button are Christians. How can that be?

 

[UncleMatt]

You can see how much we give companies in the thread I started about corporate welfare costing taxpayers twice as much as social welfare.

 

[UncleMatt]

From the living Bible

John 3:17 But if someone is supposed to be a Christian, and has money enough to live well, and sees a brother in need,and won't help him - how can God's love be within him.

Most of the congressman with their fingers on the Nay button are Christians. How can that be?

Because they are capable of mental gymnastics that would win the gold at any Olympics, that's how. The only thing greater than the human capacity for love is the human capacity for denial....

 

[smokeythecat]

Native guy, wrong passage. John 3:16-18 is the gospel narrative. The salvation message. Buckaroo, You know, I work for one of the largest companies in the world. My immediate managers tend to "like" me, but the corporation, hey, I'm just a person number. They don't care, but If the big corporations go under, I'd be one of the poor. So I'm all for corporations surviving - however, CEO's making a quadzillion dollars a year, I have to agree with you on that one. And it is just plain wicked to NOT plant crops so people will starve somewhere else, however, due to corruption, I have found it is near impossible to get the necessary food to those who need it the most. That's what's happened and is happening in Africa. Native guy, Jesus said the poor would always be with us. The government does help the poor, the churches do, I do. I hope you do. And now to the heart of the matter - Politicians - Politicians are after one thing - looking after themselves, and their legacies. Honest, Christian politicians are about as common as oh, human cities on Mars. Just because someone calls themselves a Christian, doesn't mean they are one. Plus Christians aren't perfect. Jeff-Gordon, great question about the subsidies. However, I don't think my stomach could take that roller coaster ride.

 

[Peyton Manning]

buy some tums

 

[thrillathahunt]

Funny. Liberals are constantly ranting on how Republicans want poor people to go hungry. And yet, the Obama administration has DOUBLED the number of people on food stamps just during his watch. Why did they do this? I will tell you why. Because it is good for BIG banks that administer the program. YES. J.P. Morgan Chase has made almost a billion dollars administering food stamps for the feds. Who'd a thought it.

 

[UncleMatt]

Uh huh, Obama fired all those people! (rolls eyes) I guess when people's memories only go back to 2008, its understandable why they are so confused about why there are so many people on food stamps these days.

But who could blame them? I sure wouldn't want anyone looking farther back than 2008 at the record of my party if I was a republican voter either!

 

[Peyton Manning]

ummm which President started TARP?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

thrillathahunt:

So those people receiving SNAP (no such program as "food stamps") are more hungry now then they were before?

SNAP is another Federal government subsidy for big agriculture, grocery stores, etc. It does stimulate the economy because a ready supply of money isn't enough. It has to have velocity. And, let's face it, poor folks spend all they take in.

Good luck to all,

~ The Old Bookaroo

 

[smokeythecat]

I think most if not all the banks paid back TARP. I saw today the government sold the last of their shares of GM.

Regarding the poor, let's not forget there are two types of poor, those who try to do for themselves and can't and become poor, and those who are deliberately poor.

Deliberately you say? Oh yes, add some alcohol abuse or drug abuse and self generated crime and wala! Poor! Then they can become generational slaves to the government payouts if they play their cards right. I am quite sure not many people start off wanting to be addicted, and then unable to do anything but rely on the government, and I have a hard time feeling sorry for them, however I am deeply saddened what happens to their families and children. And if the cycle isn't broken, people can enslave themselves to their additions, whatever they are and become slaves to the government for their subsistence. I've seen it play out both ways. A certain family would come week after week for food, clothes, etc. where I volunteered, and then went to every other place in two counties for the same thing. I know they did this for at least 4 years I volunteered there and the other type, well, they needed something that week or month, then got straightened out and "flew right". They chose to fight and did not remain poor. My brother liked alcohol and while he worked and had a fairly decent job, he was in essence poor, I figured once he spent $600 per month on tobacco and alcohol and he died at 50 years of age because he wouldn't give up the dam**d alcohol. He was poor because he was a slave to the addictions. Government subsistence can become an addition also. Kinda like politicians in office, they're addicted to the power. Sadly, I don't think whatever we say is going to change much for the good.

 

[Native Floridian]

it's bad enough that memory only goes back to 2008, but the right's spin is that 2008 was O's fault.

That and few understand exactly how dire 2008 was. The increase in unemployment and food stamps being case in point. The uninformed right listening to the Talking heads spin it to all being obama's fault.

10,9,8,

 

[Peyton Manning]

anything bad in history = obama
anything good in history= reagan