is their any proof of caches found ??

[bingbong]

i was interested to know that if there are any well proven documentary evidence in the form of video or media articles showing clearly what has been found .
every year in the UK caches are found by detectorists and theres hard video evidence and media articles to show what was found.
just asking like to see what and if has been found over the years .
i have an old charles garret book from the 80s which shows finds but nothing recent .

 

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[Dr. Syn]

Few and far between. #1 rule is keep your trap shut about it. Otherwise you will be dealing with all kinds of Federal/State/Local Govt. Agencies, and the law suits you'll be defending against from folks saying they are the rightful owners.

Gotta be like me, see it all, and tell no one.

 

[Connecticut Sam]

The bad news is that treasure hunters learn the hard way not to talk about what they had founded and the lose their treasures.

 

[Mr.T]

Hi There.

Heres a site where you can see numerous caches being unearthed.

Metal Detecting Strategy for 'Searched-Out' Site



Some great advise also!

 

[eolson3]

No cache hunter ever finds one...

 

[LuckyThirteen08]

Im sure that alot more caches go unreported than reported here in the US. The feds would have you paying six million in taxes on one million in treasure.

 

[GrizLeeBear]

Wasn't there a famous Spanish wreck found off the Keys some years back where the courts said all the finds had to be given to Spain? Loose lips sink more than ships.

 

[lastleg]

Newspapers have, or had, Lost and Found sections. Look under FOUND.

 

[MadPoetLaw]

i was interested to know that if there are any well proven documentary evidence in the form of video or media articles showing clearly what has been found .
every year in the UK caches are found by detectorists and theres hard video evidence and media articles to show what was found.
just asking like to see what and if has been found over the years .
i have an old charles garret book from the 80s which shows finds but nothing recent .

From my understanding (i live in the USA) the UK has a strict set of laws concerning such discoveries that protect the finder / landowners as well as clearly lays out their responsibilities in order that everyone involved: finders, museums, landowners and government all benefit from the prompt public disclosure of such discoveries.

IMO this sort of common sense law is desperately needed in the US. For now such laws are a complex tangle of local, state and federal regulations and any one who did happen to make any sort of major discovery (and goes public) will immediately find themselves being inundated with lawsuits from all three levels of the government as well as anyone else who thinks they have a claim to the fortune (real or imagined) including possible foreign governments. Even if the finder were to prevail (after years if not decades of legal battles) the only one who truly profits from any of it will be the lawyers involved. This would be hardly worth the 15 minutes of fame and a picture of you smiling in the media IMO. Sad to say anyone who is fortunate enough to find a huge cache in the US is much better off keeping it a secret.

A prime example of this can be found in Mel Fischer's story of the Atocha recovery. He faced lawsuits from all sorts of people and governments. After decades in court he finally prevailed (rightfully so) but at the cost of many years and literally millions of dollars. The only reason he was able to even complete the nightmare of the judicial system all the way up to the US Supreme court was the sheer immense size of the Atocha's treasure. And ironically US laws "favor" treasure hunters (finders) who recover treasure at sea as opposed to those who recover treasure on land.

 

[Backbacon]

Look at the UK law that says if you find more than 1 coin (even if you just find 2) in the same hole it's considered a hoard and your find goes bye bye.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Look at the UK law that says if you find more than 1 coin (even if you just find 2) in the same hole it's considered a hoard and your find goes bye bye.

If it's the "wrong" type of coin, 2 from the same field is considered a hoard.

 

[MadPoetLaw]

Look at the UK law that says if you find more than 1 coin (even if you just find 2) in the same hole it's considered a hoard and your find goes bye bye.

Again I live in the US so my knowledge of UK law is limited. If i'm mistaken here I'd welcome the input from some of our forum's UK members.

The law I referred to provides specific compensation for the finders / landowners in the cases of these finds. No, they might not get to keep the treasures they found as Academia gets first dibs on ownership and also gets to control the site for archaeological purposes but they must compensate the finder / landowners a fair market value for this. In the end the TH'ers get a wonderful reward, some deserved recognition and a little fame, the museums and archaeologists get their artifacts and a new site and the government gets to tax the finders new wealth so it can be win/win for everyone involved. While this kind of law might not appeal to all THers, IMO this kind of common sense law is a good first step and is far better than what we have here in the US.

 

[gunsil]

You guys don't get the UK laws at all. If you find something called a "treasure" or "hoard" yes you need to turn it over to the government for evaluation. If it is considered common you get it back. If it is considered a rare antiquity the government PAYS YOU the fair market value and keeps it. This only applies to antiquities, not to finding common copper, silver or gold coins from the last couple hundred years. If you find a big one on private property and it is classified as treasure the government splits the fair market value between the finder and the landowner. This is much better than here where we can't hunt at all on much government owned land.

 

[bufaloeletric]

No cache hunter ever finds one...

id like to prove you wrong eolson

 

[Frankn]

Yes, but there is also the 5th amendment. Frank

 

[Keppy]

Newspapers have, or had, Lost and Found sections. Look under FOUND.

.. Good one...LOL... .. I liked that

 

[Keppy]

No cache hunter ever finds one...

..... eolson3.... Is right here no good cache hunter has ever found one......... Good cache hunters never find any thing if they are smart....

 

[Frankn]

Well, I got to admit, there was one. There was so much hassle and publicity that Mel Fisher had to go public on that find. Frank

 

[Keppy]

Well, I got to admit, there was one. There was so much hassle and publicity that Mel Fisher had to go public on that find. Frank

........... Yes and look at the trouble it caused him........

 

[austin]

You know one has been found when your neighbor divorces his wife and buys a whiskey distillery, a ferrari and a hair transplant...