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Hello fellow Tnet'ers.

I was searching half dollars last night, and came across this weird 1974 Kennedy Half dollar. The only reason I noticed it was because when I was date checking, my finger ran along a VERY raised edge compared to the rest of the coin. The raised edge is right next to "RTY" in Liberty.

I then noticed that the coin could be doubled by the edge, so I got out my 10x loupe, and indeed it is doubled, both on the obverse(front) and reverse(back).

Here are some scans, I will try my best for the highest quality scans, and to zoom in if possible to the error locations. (Scanned in 600dpi, highest quality my scanner goes)

Here's what I can see on the obverse(front)
-All of the words "In god" are doubled, most prominent in "In go"
-the "19" in the date 1974 is doubled as well. Most prominent in the 1.
-I believe there is partial doubling in "LIB" of Liberty as well, but I am not 100% sure.

Back(reverse):
The motto "STATES OF AMERICA" are all doubled, except for the word "United"
The last R in the word "half dollaR" is also very noticeable doubled.


Below are scans...
Please if anybody can ID this error, that would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, BuffaloBoy

**Note, if viewing from the loupe, it is best to view at an angle for it to be more noticeable. **
 

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Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

first let me say by no means i am a coin expert and cant say anything but i think it might have been double stamped and no one noticed could have cause a jam when it happen. would explain the coin being off center.
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

You also have an off centered obverse and definately doubling on the reverse nice error, nice error find :thumbsup:
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

Holy Crapola. Great find BB! :hello2: :notworthy: :laughing9: HH!

-K :icon_king:
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

I'm no expert with error coins, but it definitely looks like double die to me.
Take it to a coin dealer in your area to make sure. Usually it's the 1974-D that
is double die on the obverse. I've never seen a 1974 that has doubling like the one
you found. Nice score there, Buffaloboy.
Congrats,
rileyboy
PS: Not to down side your find, but some coin dealers call this
"Die Chatter"....but I think you have something special there.
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

rileyboy said:
I'm no expert with error coins, but it definitely looks like double die to me.
Take it to a coin dealer in your area to make sure. Usually it's the 1974-D that
is double die on the obverse. I've never seen a 1974 that has doubling like the one
you found. Nice score there, Buffaloboy.
Congrats,
rileyboy
PS: Not to down side your find, but some coin dealers call this
"Die Chatter"....but I think you have something special there.
Thanks rileyboy, the coin dealer in my area is a complete ripoff, i bring nothing to him. I am however a member of a local coin club, and there is somebody there who is an expert on error coins. I will bring it to him. :D
Thanks for your comment,
BuffaloBoy
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

BuffaloBoy said:
rileyboy said:
I'm no expert with error coins, but it definitely looks like double die to me.
Take it to a coin dealer in your area to make sure. Usually it's the 1974-D that
is double die on the obverse. I've never seen a 1974 that has doubling like the one
you found. Nice score there, Buffaloboy.
Congrats,
rileyboy
PS: Not to down side your find, but some coin dealers call this
"Die Chatter"....but I think you have something special there.
Thanks rileyboy, the coin dealer in my area is a complete ripoff, i bring nothing to him. I am however a member of a local coin club, and there is somebody there who is an expert on error coins. I will bring it to him. :D
Thanks for your comment,
BuffaloBoy

Keep us up to date
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

I most certainly will, but the update won't be for a few days. :icon_thumleft:
 

Re: Is this an error? |\~_*~_*WITH MANY PICTURES*_~*_~/|

It is an off-center broadstrike. This occurs when the collar which hold the planchet is unseated or out of alignment. When the dies are pressed together (sandwiching the planchet), the collar prevents the metal from flowing beyond the coin's specified diameter. The doubling is not a doubled die as the die is fine, the doubling occurs more as a result of the machine process. Nice find.
 

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Diver_Down said:
It is an off-center broadstrike. This occurs when the collar which hold the planchet is unseated or out of alignment. When the dies are pressed together (sandwiching the planchet), the collar prevents the metal from flowing beyond the coin's specified diameter. The doubling is not a doubled die as the die is fine, the doubling occurs more as a result of the machine process. Nice find.
Very nice to know Diver_Down, thank you for the input, you're the best when it comes to identifying my "error" coins :icon_sunny:
 

It's not a broadstrike, as it has full reeding meaning the collar was in place. The obverse die is significantly misaligned. It's off by enough to affect the devices, which is unusual, but I don't know if it's going to bring a large premium (still a keeper). It also shows some fairly unusual strike doubling on the obverse, which makes me think there was somehow a lot of slop in the press when the coin was struck, which would cause the strike doubling and the misaligned die.
 

captainfwiffo said:
It's not a broadstrike, as it has full reeding meaning the collar was in place. The obverse die is significantly misaligned. It's off by enough to affect the devices, which is unusual, but I don't know if it's going to bring a large premium (still a keeper). It also shows some fairly unusual strike doubling on the obverse, which makes me think there was somehow a lot of slop in the press when the coin was struck, which would cause the strike doubling and the misaligned die.

+1
 

hey rielyboy are you ok? you did not say its still out there at the end of your post like you normally do.
 

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