I for one have never been happy with them. they are better than no headphones at all, but i much prefer the jimmy sierra headphones. they go for about 100.00 but they last a long time, ( haven't wore out 1 yet) and i personally feel that i can hear better with them. I hope this helps it's what i use for my xlt, and just got my son a pair to use with his m-6. HH