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[mad4wrecks]

Per the St. Augustine Lighthouse webpage, the Dove has not been found.

And Michael, my apologies. I would have used your wonderful book as a reference along with Singers but I lent it out and haven't gotten it back yet!

Tom

 

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[FISHEYE]

There are many wrecks in that area dated from the 1500's on up.There are 4 steam ship wrecks right at ponce inlet.One right on the north side,one directly inside on a sandbar and one right in the middle of the inlet that has been dredged over many times.This wreck was a paymaster ship during the seminole indian war.And had a load of muskets on it.I know of several more in that area but not telling anyone where they are.The sand right off the beach is 50 feet deep down to the hardpan and the sand moves all around from the inlet down to bethune.there are lots of sharks and the vis is 0.There have been several permits for that area,a anchor and some cannons found.Also some gold pillar dollars and a large emerald cross was found on the south side of the inlet.After the 2004 hurricanes i covered the whole beach from bethune to the inlet and found stuff from the 1600's to the present.Made many trips to my truck cause i couldn't carry it all.The wreck at 3rd ave is a site thats on the florida master site file.It is protected.There is no treasure there.

 

[crazyfish]

After the 2004 hurricanes i covered the whole beach from bethune to the inlet and found stuff from the 1600's to the present.Made many trips to my truck cause i couldn't carry it all.The wreck at 3rd ave is a site thats on the florida master site file.It is protected.There is no treasure there.

Man I would love to see your haul from that .......I don't expect you to spill the beans, but what was one cool find you made that day?

 

[bigscoop]

There are many wrecks in that area dated from the 1500's on up.There are 4 steam ship wrecks right at ponce inlet.One right on the north side,one directly inside on a sandbar and one right in the middle of the inlet that has been dredged over many times.This wreck was a paymaster ship during the seminole indian war.And had a load of muskets on it.I know of several more in that area but not telling anyone where they are.The sand right off the beach is 50 feet deep down to the hardpan and the sand moves all around from the inlet down to bethune.there are lots of sharks and the vis is 0.There have been several permits for that area,a anchor and some cannons found.Also some gold pillar dollars and a large emerald cross was found on the south side of the inlet.After the 2004 hurricanes i covered the whole beach from bethune to the inlet and found stuff from the 1600's to the present.Made many trips to my truck cause i couldn't carry it all.The wreck at 3rd ave is a site thats on the florida master site file.It is protected.There is no treasure there.

Now you're touching on my reason for this inquiry. Odd to that you mention how the sand moves, what I call the hourglass effect, i.e., if it increases here then it was just shifted from somewhere else. The near shore currents are much different then the offshore currents, toss in a few beaks in the sandbars the near shore currents can be running north one day and south the next, the sand being redistributed each time these currents change, and the stronger the currents the more that gets moved. I was hoping for more good blow before the summer season kicked in but that's not looking possible now. Bummer!

 

[hobbit]

Now you're touching on my reason for this inquiry. Odd to that you mention how the sand moves, what I call the hourglass effect, i.e., if it increases here then it was just shifted from somewhere else. The near shore currents are much different then the offshore currents, toss in a few beaks in the sandbars the near shore currents can be running north one day and south the next, the sand being redistributed each time these currents change, and the stronger the currents the more that gets moved. I was hoping for more good blow before the summer season kicked in but that's not looking possible now. Bummer!

If a beach is building, then a beach somewhere nearby is stripping. This process can be very complex, especially around inlets. There are several highly technical books available on the subject of coastal geomorphology. I personally (and grudgingly) have to disagree with those who say beach renourishment projects are a complete waste of money. Sand pumped onto a beach does not have to stay on the beach to be a barrier to future erosional events. I don't think the Treasure Coast beaches cut like they used to during moderately rough weather. I believe this is largely due to the tons of renourishment sand that has been pumped onto area beaches. I think the sand piles up in front of the beaches and acts as a buffer to low to moderate erosional events. As a detectorist, this really stinks, but I think the renourishment process is, in a general sense, quite effective. Hilton Head Island, SC, has, IMHO, a model renourishment program. The front beach there has undergone 3 major renourishments since 1984...all paid for by a small tax placed on hotels/ motels. Some may argue that since there have been 3 major projects since 1984, this somehow proves renourishment does not work. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[FISHEYE]

Crazyfish.my finds were posted on here in 2004 a week or so after the hurricanes.You can do a search here or just look at my past posts.Pics of just about everything i found are here.

All the beach that was removed from ponce inlet south to 27th street was deposited at bethune and south at the cape and im sure some went offshore somewhere.The beach renourishment is a waste of taxpayer money and does noting for the environment.It only helps the beach front property owners.Also no insurance company will insure beach front property.One property owner i talked to that had his pool consumed by the ocean said he had to pay for a new seawall and replace his pool out of his own pocket.In new Smyrna beach if you dont have some existing seawall to build back on the city will not let you build a new one.If the seawall was built 100 years ago and 1 brick or chunk of concrete is left then you can rebuild.If not anything then you are SOL.Its instesting out some cities work.They get money from people living there and tourists yet if you own a hotel or restaurant on the beach and there was never any seawall they wont help you to restore the property.I think florida should make it a law that if you have beachfront property and if it gets destroyed or washed away that the remains must be torn down and the land restored back to its natural sate and can never be built on again.

 

[bigscoop]

Crazyfish.my finds were posted on here in 2004 a week or so after the hurricanes.You can do a search here or just look at my past posts.Pics of just about everything i found are here.

All the beach that was removed from ponce inlet south to 27th street was deposited at bethune and south at the cape and im sure some went offshore somewhere.The beach renourishment is a waste of taxpayer money and does noting for the environment.It only helps the beach front property owners.Also no insurance company will insure beach front property.One property owner i talked to that had his pool consumed by the ocean said he had to pay for a new seawall and replace his pool out of his own pocket.In new Smyrna beach if you dont have some existing seawall to build back on the city will not let you build a new one.If the seawall was built 100 years ago and 1 brick or chunk of concrete is left then you can rebuild.If not anything then you are SOL.Its instesting out some cities work.They get money from people living there and tourists yet if you own a hotel or restaurant on the beach and there was never any seawall they wont help you to restore the property.I think florida should make it a law that if you have beachfront property and if it gets destroyed or washed away that the remains must be torn down and the land restored back to its natural sate and can never be built on again.

Sand movements, weather daily or over a long period of time, it's actually a pretty interesting study and an extremely beneficial subject to the beach & water hunter. It's the one thing I focus on now regardless of the time of year. It is a priority.