Mideast Dig

[Red_desert]

Mideast Dig*****UPDATED!

I'm trying to update some info and finds. A couple of the pics were posted once in a thread about 2 years old, but many of the photos never have been seen before here on TreasureNet.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/dowsing/298281-need-help-pictures-dowsing.html

Like usually happens on this dowsing board, treasure hunter posted 2 pics, then never returned to leave any feedback.

For some time now I've suspected that in map dowsing, many deep cache signals marked by dowsers, really aren't a buried treasure. It can happen as you dowse over a few deep artifacts of value with loose coins or ornaments, found in layers of ancient civilization around ruins. In some cases carved stones were found, to indicate a treasure once was buried there, but no real way of knowing (except by dowsing) whether it has been recovered.

Then deep treasure hits might also (if checked out) be quite valuable fossils or dinosaur bones. I've seen the prices of certain dinosaur jaw bones and skulls (which looked rather petrified) complete intact with teeth, listed on the Internet high as $10,000. Definitely a treasure, you can expect a bone trove of them to give a good hit when dowsing.....yet few take this into consideration when marking maps.

Here is a dig from the Mideast, with photos of finds, treasure markers, details of what happened which show verification of location for map dowsing results. The bottom line is "we don't always in dowsing find the expected, but rather it is often the unexpected finds" and how true it was in the Middle East.

A little history first for this area, the location is on the mountain slopes overlooking the Dead Sea on the Jordan side. I put a red line box around it on the map. In ancient times battles took place over a period of many centuries. The land strip once was called the Moab Kingdom, which often fell into Jewish occupation. Moses was allowed to see across the Dead Sea, to view the Promise Land from high up on these mountain slopes. The tomb of Moses until this day, has never been found and remains lost somewhere in the ancient Moab region.

Geographically, It was bounded on the west by the Dead Sea and the southern section of the Jordan River; on the east by Ammon and the Arabian desert (from which it was separated by low, rolling hills and on the south by Edom). The northern boundary varied, but said to have been represented by a line miles above the northern extremity of the Dead Sea.

(This thread has been updated with more complete info)

 

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[twoauers]

I like this post, well done, but have to say though.....rough time to dig in light of the problems on the borders . Best wishes and good hunting I admire your courage to try this in that area. Jon in USA

 

[Red_desert]

I like this post, well done, but have to say though.....rough time to dig in light of the problems on the borders . Best wishes and good hunting I admire your courage to try this in that area. Jon in USA

Well yes, I was still working on the map dowsing project, when refuges from Syria started coming into Jordan. A number of impressive artifacts were recovered along with rare and unusual fossils. Have some illustrated treasure sign photos were sent to me also.....eventually hope to get it all posted.

Here I'm adding more info on the fossil finds.

Inoceramus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Inoceramus are found as fossils in Jurassic to Cretaceous rocks and especially widespread in Cretaceous rocks. This extinc prehistoric relative of the oyster lived in shallow seas. Shell size varies 1-10" in diameter, identification relatively simple. Inoceramus have a distinctive shell (it is large, thick, and wrinkled in a concentric shape).

These concentric shaped shells found at the Mideast dig site in Jordan, must be a very large size fossil specimen of the Inoceramus (as you can see when held in hand). The shells were found about 16-22 feet deep in a pocket of red colored rock which was surrounded completely by a white type of stone. I've seen pics of reddish colored shells from South Dakota, but were very red. The Jordan shells in the photos below, the reddish color is less obvious. It seems that the whitish color of shell fossils here was caused by the mineral deposits over and surrounding them. A local geology teacher has identified the white mineral as gypsum. Perhaps this explains the lighter color, a very light pinkish tone (2 photos).

Gypsum specimens below (3 photos), tiny spherical crystals catch the flash from the camera deep in the vault.

 

[DocBeav]

You are right Red...what you said about people not returning to provide feedback. I tried to capture as much detail as I could for you and the others who doused a some posts that I put up on here. I think it is common courtesy to provide SOME input back to those of you have put some time and effort into filling others requests. Keep up the good work and I really appreciate it...to you and all the others.....Thanks!

 

[Red_desert]

Some maps dowsed on this board, were for trips and they never got to take the vacation. Digging is hard work, another reason things don't get checked out. Then at times valuable treasure is recovered and greed causes them to keep it all without leaving feedback in the forum thread.

I think on the Mideast dig, some hits turned out to be petrified dinosaur bones down to 18-22 feet deep.

I've added some info and photos here. Some websites I've looked at with dinosaur bones from Africa, the bone specimens compare with these below (from the Jordan vault). I put one photo on another with a type of dinosaur foot. These came from the reddish rock deposits. Inside the vault shown below with a line around this red deposit.

The rectangular shaped slightly curved flat piece....at first it looked to me like fossilized turtle shell piece, but then realized it is a little thicker than most turtle shell fragments. Possibly these are skull fragments of a large dinosaur.

 

[Red_desert]

A carved rock with treasure signs, is located at the dig site high up overlooking the Dead Sea. tThis fascinating rock sits partially over a private property lot line. The propertyon one side is owned by a relative of Amjad, a professional treasure hunter who formed a business partnership. It was not mentioned to me whether their treasure business is backed by investors or how they managed to financed it.

Once Amjad brought in a dowser from his region, to check for any buried treasure their side of the lot line. The local dowser picked up a signal deep in the ground, then estimated to be at a depth of 20-22 feet (when converted from meters to feet). To me his depth reading seemed rather deep and at some point you will be hitting bedrock. Perhaps being on a slope, the depth was figured straight down, a possible explanation for it.

Amjad made a cell phone video, going completely around the rock carving. The signs were hardly visible in the video making studying them impossible. These photos have been marked to point out important interpretation clues such as distance. I can't read the language, but distance on the carving was measured and calculated using centimeters.

 

[Red_desert]

Treasure signs have in many ways remained unchanged since ancient times. In a modern world, change is progressive and we don't have enough energy to keep up with technology in it's many forms or available products to satisfy our curosity. Symbols carved in stone for buried treasure are set and you might say "written in stone" therefore to survive unchanged for centuries (perhaps thousands of years). It is the knowledge of interpretaion that will never become obsolete, because these stone treasure markers bring hope to the searcher and inspiration to a researcher.

Here are a couple of the treasure sign photo illustrations Amjad shared with me. Some will be familiar to most of us. Turtles while being very common in the Americas, they have a place in Mideast carvings. Also shown below, the bird with an uplifted wing, a sign that probably is less common.

 

[0josef0]

this is some of the mark from my friends ,each tag has a particular solution such as the heart refers to trap and grapes in most cases to jewelry and other
i know some of the information about it,but there is a complex signals difficult to solve like conundrum, I heard some stories about the caverns are open only on certain conditions like rain or on a specific day as Sunday.... and this is specially photos of mark for you Red desert

 

[Red_desert]

I sent you back PM.

 

[Red_desert]

Nesting birds to me represent the "nest egg" a symbol of a family treasure. Even in modern times, you often hear the familiar saying "invest or save money toward a nest egg" in econompic related discussions. Here the treasure sign appears to be a pair of swans or geese facing each other, with a chalice between them.

While crosses were used by the Romans to put criminals to death, as a cruel form of capital punishment, after the crucifixion of Christ they became a Christian symbol. A cross carved in stone is often associated with Spanish markers, but also can be found at cache sites in the Mideast region. Crusaders no doubt must have used a cross symbol for some of their buried treasures.

 

[Red_desert]

Down in the vault, the photos were taken of finds, which being flash only turned out dark and hard to see the details clearly. Inside the 3 line boxes, looks like crosses are carved into 2 rocks and a mill or grinding stone. The smaller carved rocks shown and there is a bag which has a handle on top. At first glance I thought this bag was a rolled up Persian carpet.

 

[Red_desert]

The plate seems to be from the Ancient Kingdom of Moab. You see in the very center the face of the "Bull Symbol" as it represented the religion and properity of the country. What is amazing to me, the wooden axe handle survived this long deep in the ground. Certain types of trees found in the Mideast are quite durable when used to make tools or furniture. Some of the alters of the Tabernacle set up by Moses, called for an extremely hard tree wood overlain with pure gold.

 

[Red_desert]

You are right Red...what you said about people not returning to provide feedback. I tried to capture as much detail as I could for you and the others who doused a some posts that I put up on here. I think it is common courtesy to provide SOME input back to those of you have put some time and effort into filling others requests. Keep up the good work and I really appreciate it...to you and all the others.....Thanks!

Talking about feedback, 0josef0 who left the carved rock photos in this thread, dug up 4 empty buckets with discarded paper money in the hole. The map was one for a rumored paper currency cache. Buckets can leak and must be the reason some of the money left in the hole.

 

[Red_desert]

Two more treasure signs, the square and a four directions symbol. Many ancient or primitive religions use the last sign just mentioned, as a symbol of the cardinal points combined with spiritual concepts. Both signs on carved rocks, can indicate a destination of cached treasure..

 

[Red_desert]

A sleeping snake, the kind like you find on a trail along a stream, stretched out across the path sunning itself. This is the destination of the cached treasure. The carved symbol lacks the sharp bends with a raised head, pointing to a dangerous or hard trail.

Fish symbols, perhaps less common, but these also can be marking a cache site.

 

[Red_desert]

Last of the treasure signs Amjad shared, for carved stone cache markers in the Mideast. If you ever see a lizard carving on a rock, this could point to a buried treasure.