Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

[Charmin]

Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

This is about the size of a quarter and has a screw-on back.
I'm not sure what it is ----button maybe? or maybe some sort of lapel or hat pin?
And is it military?
It has a "N" and a "castle" looking building on it.
It doesn't have a makers mark on the back.
Looks like its made of brass.
Anyone know what it is or what the "N" stands for?
Thanks for looking and any help you might have! regards, sandcreek4

 

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[PBK]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Company N enlisted man's collar disk, probably WWI period.

 

[Charmin]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Company N enlisted man's collar disk, probably WWI period.

You are FAST!!! THANKS so much PBK--I appreciate ya!! kind regards, sandcreek4

 

[PBK]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

Any time, Sandcreek4!

 

[PBK]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

Please post some links detailing the differences between "U. S. Army Engineers" and "U. S. Army Corps of Engineers."

After reading your post, I checked my ID in both Scipio's The Collar Disk Story (1907-1999), the standard reference for collar disks, and in Laframboise's History of the Combat Support Branches. Neither author makes or mentions such a distinction.

Thanks, too, for the L/N correction. I've made the appropriate changes elsewhere in this thread. It's always those pesky little errors that trip us up, isn't it? By the way...

A collar disk is not a "pin."

Maybe we all need a nap!

 

[PBK]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

Sandcreek4, you might like to check out this page of listings showing several similar disks on eBay:

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/item...dZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14?_stpos=72956&_fcid=1&gbr=1

 

[Charmin]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

Sandcreek4, you might like to check out this page of listings showing several similar disks on eBay:

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/item...dZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14?_stpos=72956&_fcid=1&gbr=1

Thanks PBK--I am thinking about listing this on ebay and have been looking at the ones on there.
Is it a "Corps of Engineers" or just "Army Engineers"? I'm confused !
Regards, sasndcreek4

 

[nhbenz]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

There's no distinction, PBK is exactly correct, as if there were any doubt. If you want confirmation of this just google "US Army Engineer" and guess what shows up -- U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
The individual could be called a "US Army Engineer", but he was in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

 

[Charmin]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

There's no distinction, PBK is exactly correct, as if there were any doubt. If you want confirmation of this just google "US Army Engineer" and guess what shows up -- U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
The individual could be called a "US Army Engineer", but he was in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Thanks NHbenz for clearing that up! Kind regards~~sandcreek4

 

[Charmin]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

OK. Let's try to straighten this out. The US Army Corps of Engineers is made up of mostly civilians, with a handful of military men thrown in.They deal mostly with dams and such. That handful wears this castle. It is their symbol, or whatever. Then, if you are in the US Army and are an engineer, you also wear this castle. In the army, there are thousands of construction engineers, combat engineers and also armored engineers in tanks and apc's, divided into different companies. I know. I was an engineer tank commander for about 5 years. I wore this castle. They don't put companies on them today. This is from WW1 period or a little newer. This is Company N. The US Army Corps of Engineers is NOT divided into companies. This whatever was worn by an active duty engineer in the US Army. Period.

So if I understand right, this is a "civilian" collar disk who was in Company "N"? and not US Army Engineer?? Thanks for trying to explain this to us, CATFISHJK1! Kind Regards~~sandcreek4

 

[oldfireguy]

Re: Military(?) lapel button? "N" with Castle--help Id please

That is a 1923 Enlisted Gilt collar disc. They were used from 1923 to 1936. The difference between yours and the early WW1 styles is the detail of the castle and the background. It is Co. N as others has pointed out.