My first flint point and a mystery.

[CrazySlasher]

Sadly, both are broken. I believe the larger one is an Adena. Pretty rare where I'm from! The smaller one, I'm not sure about. I don't know if it's flint and what typology it is. Any help would appreciated.

 

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[CrazySlasher]

Nobody?!

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Idk about the small one but the large one looks like a morrow mountain point to me. Where are you from? Hard to tell the small one since its broken.

Johnathan Griswold

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Could be the same style as the large one

Johnathan Griswold

 

[CrazySlasher]

Nobody?!

South shore of Massachusetts. Almost 100% sure it's an Adena. The smaller one, I just can't figure out.

http://www.oplin.org/point/identify/bifacial/points/stemmed/images/adenapts.jpg

 

[flintmel]

South shore of Massachusetts. Almost 100% sure it's an Adena. The smaller one, I just can't figure out.

http://www.oplin.org/point/identify/bifacial/points/stemmed/images/adenapts.jpg

kinda hard to tell but it does have the elongated stem like an adena would and chipping looks right. like the material the other point's made of! I'm in se Ct.

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Yeah it looks like it... what about a Koens Crispin?

Johnathan Griswold

 

[CrazySlasher]

kinda hard to tell but it does have the elongated stem like an adena would and chipping looks right. like the material the other point's made of! I'm in se Ct.

Here are some better pics. It's killing me. I can't figure out the type or the material!

 

[birdpointgriswold]

Its some sort of flint, with those white lines in it. I don't find much of that darker color, I find the lighter color with dark lines in it

Johnathan Griswold

 

[CrazySlasher]

Its some sort of flint, with those white lines in it. I don't find much of that darker color, I find the lighter color with dark lines in it

Johnathan Griswold

Thanks. I thought it was probably flint. Interesting that I've only found flakes and one day I find two interesting flint points.

 

[birdpointgriswold]

That's 2 I have found flint different colors



Johnathan Griswold

 

[CrazySlasher]

Thanks. I thought it was probably flint. Interesting that I've only found flakes and one day I find two interesting flint points.

Very nice. I see the white/black in that one similar to mine. We just don't have much of it around my area (or any really nice materials for that matter!)

 

[natchitoches]

the little one looks very old, can you see thu it
like to see some close up shots of it

 

[CrazySlasher]

the little one looks very old, can you see thu it
like to see some close up shots of it

No, you can't see through it. How old do you think?

 

[naturegirl]

That smaller one is interesting, hope you get some responses on it!

 

[Get-the-point]

The first point is a indurated shale early triangle. It would appear to be early archaic to paleo. The second point which does coincide with the fields timeline looks like a broken bi-furcated point. I would need to see the base to complete my conclusion. The time-frame of the points you find are a clue to how early the field was occupied. So you found a possible early triangle, this point would need Basal grinding to be a true early triangle. Levanna and Madison triangles being woodland time frame would not have basal grinding. The second point you have appears to be made out of a Brownish-reddish jasper which is common up by you. If you show me pictures of the base of your second point I would be able to tell you if it was broke and if it was a bi-furcate. The one tang appears to be broken and the other one being off-set and not symmetrical would lead me to believe it was bifurcated.................Materials used- 1st point Indurated Shale.....2nd point Jasper.......................Hope this helps......Nice first finds!!!! Are you hooked now?..................................GTP(Chris)

 

[natchitoches]

i was thinking it had a paleo look to it

 

[Charl]

The triangle is a single-ear variant of a Brewerton Eared-Triangle. It's Late Archaic. I have found quite a few in Ma and RI. It matches exactly 2 of the examples shown in Jeff Boudreau's "A New England Typology of Native American Projectile Points", the most recent and best typology guide for the New England region. Brewerton Eared Triangles that display a narrow isoceles form are not as common as wider variants but the single very slight ear is a dead give away as to the type: the single eared variant of a Brewerton Eared Triangle. While such triangles usually have 2 slight ears, the single eared form is not at all uncommon. Don't know why they made them with just one ear, though. Both nice finds!

 

[Charl]

Here are 2 examples of the wider variant of the single-eared Brewerton Eared Triangle form. The single ear is a bit more pronounced in these 2 quartzite examples from RI but I have seen many with the VERY slight ear your example displays.

 

[Get-the-point]

The triangle is a single-ear variant of a Brewerton Eared-Triangle. It's Late Archaic. I have found quite a few in Ma and RI. It matches exactly 2 of the examples shown in Jeff Boudreau's "A New England Typology of Native American Projectile Points", the most recent and best typology guide for the New England region. Brewerton Eared Triangles that display a narrow isoceles form are not as common as wider variants but the single very slight ear is a dead give away as to the type: the single eared variant of a Brewerton Eared Triangle. While such triangles usually have 2 slight ears, the single eared form is not at all uncommon. Don't know why they made them with just one ear, though. Both nice finds!

I have never heard of a single eared variety of the Brewerton Eared Triangle. Every search I have made still does not show any example of this NEW varient you describe. All typology books are good sources to pull from but to say that that one is the Best for the northeast is a stretch to say the least. The Bewerton Eared Triangle is not "Late Archaic" the time span is continuously changing. The span of use stretches from Early to late. The examples you posted would be typed by me as Levanna. Although the one you have to the right looks to be Madison. I have found many Brewerton Eared Triangles and side notched as well and never have I seen one with a single auricle. However that being said I am always open to learning of a new type or varient. After looking at a few of mine especially the one with the little bit of white to the base I can see the single auricle standing out. So I am open to review. Still though there is nothing on that type out there so far as all my searches. So any info to this new type or reference towards the single eared variety would be appreciated. Here are a couple of mine.....................GTP