My New SE Will Ship Tomorrow

[Michigan Badger]

Okay, now continues my nutty fickle trip down detector lane.

As you may recall in our last episode, I bought a used Explorer II but then a few days later traded it in for a new Minelab GT.

Well, I get this email today that my Explorer arrived and I also received bad news. Over the weekend it seems the dealer sold his last two GT's.

He tells me it's a pain getting new machines from Minelab. It could be 3 months before a new shipment comes in.

So, I asked what he'd do for a new SE. He gave me a price and I sent the extra money.

SO, here I am with the SE (or will have it about next Monday). Funny how things change.

I'm sure hoping you guys weren't kidding me about the depth. We'll see.

Badger

 

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[teverly]

Just remember it is a new machine and not quite like your gt.
Take some time and learn and give it a real chance....i do not think you will be disappointed...

 

[hollowpointred]

man you are one wierd dude! i guess we will see if the depth thing was just that machine or not wont we haha! im willing to bet that this one will have no trouble on a quarter at 5 inches. i am beginning to think that you are a glutton for punishment!!

 

[Michigan Badger]

man you are one wierd dude! i guess we will see if the depth thing was just that machine or not wont we haha! im willing to bet that this one will have no trouble on a quarter at 5 inches. i am beginning to think that you are a glutton for punishment!!

Thanks teverly and I think you're right.

hollowpointed now you're sounding like everybody else

Well, it was sort of this or have him send my Ex.II back to me. He offered me a Tejon deal too but I had a Tejon and want to try a new model.

I figure this was my safest way to go to protect my investment. He gave me a great deal I think. And, I have a 2 year warrentee plus the extras my Ex.II was missing.

Actually, I didn't find the Explorer II difficult at all. To me it was really a simple machine to setup and use. I work with computers everyday so all that helped.

No, I didn't see where the Ex.II was difficult at all. DEPTH that even matched a $99 Radio Shack was the problem I had.

Badger

 

[Iron Patch]

Will be interesting to hear about your next hunt and the deal to follow.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Will be interesting to hear about your next hunt and the deal to follow.

I'm really hoping it works out. I'll give it every opportunity to prove itself.

But, even in just factory preset it should be able to accomplish the depth of an Ace 250 that's adjusted wrong and tested on super mild soil. One would think anyway?

I get all sorts of conflicting stories from long time users. Some claim spectacular depth and others say it's no better than a Sovereign GT. One fellow told me it will only detect a quarter at about 8 inches max. He said most people only get about 5-7 inches with them.

I know I did better than that with my Tejon. Anyway, we shall see what we shall see. I know my buried coins don't lie.

Badger

 

[Iron Patch]

Will be interesting to hear about your next hunt and the deal to follow.

I'm really hoping it works out. I'll give it every opportunity to prove itself.

But, even in just factory preset it should be able to accomplish the depth of an Ace 250 that's adjusted wrong and tested on super mild soil. One would think anyway?

I get all sorts of conflicting stories from long time users. Some claim spectacular depth and others say it's no better than a Sovereign GT. One fellow told me it will only detect a quarter at about 8 inches max. He said most people only get about 5-7 inches with them.

I know I did better than that with my Tejon. Anyway, we shall see what we shall see. I know my buried coins don't lie.

Badger

Quite honestly I wouldn't expect you to get much over the GT on your first hunts out. What I would expect is you to see enough in the detector to want to keep using it.

 

[teverly]

Will be interesting to hear about your next hunt and the deal to follow.

I'm really hoping it works out. I'll give it every opportunity to prove itself.

But, even in just factory preset it should be able to accomplish the depth of an Ace 250 that's adjusted wrong and tested on super mild soil. One would think anyway?

I get all sorts of conflicting stories from long time users. Some claim spectacular depth and others say it's no better than a Sovereign GT. One fellow told me it will only detect a quarter at about 8 inches max. He said most people only get about 5-7 inches with them.

I know I did better than that with my Tejon. Anyway, we shall see what we shall see. I know my buried coins don't lie.

Badger

You also have to remember that most targets will fall in that range.But if there are deeper older coins the exp.2 will find them.
i know the explorers are deep machines because i have found deep targets..but most of my recoveries have fallen in 4-8 range.But i have also found coins deeper in areas i had hunted with other detectors and missed.
also depends on what areas you hunt ie parks compared to old 1800s sites that are gone or old house yards....as to how deep some targets will be.....
My experience with these machines is that with the stock coil and your sens. set on 28 i have found coins at 8".

 

[Gilligan]

Wish I had the money to be throwing around at all of these detectors like you!

 

[Captn SE]

Hello Badger,

I've been reading your trials and tribulations you had with an Exp. II machine, along with its inability to go deep. I wish you much, much more success with your new SE. Your SE will perform just like all the other Explorer line of detectors(same depth capabilities), with a little faster recovery speed over the II and XS. The pinpoint feature is superior on the SE also (VCO), if you use it. I do sometimes, but not on all targets.

Two important items that will make your SE experience even better are a very good set of headphones(sunray pro golds), along with the sunray target probe (X1). Without these two items, I would be very handicap with my SE, and probably wouldn't use the machine. They make a difference. They're very important. Also, don't expect a deepie coin to just ring out at you like a shallow target. The deepies are faint whispers, even with a gain of 8, volume maxed out. I've dug coins past 10" with a sensitivity at only 23 too. In fact, I prefer this sensitivity over the max sensitivity. In some areas, maxing out sensitivity overloads the machine, causing erratic behavior, along with lots of nulling. When your machine is nulling(no threshold is heard), you have a much less chance of hearing a good target. You have to be swinging very slowly to allow the machine to recover from the null to be able to signal the good/deep target. Learn the "minelab wiggle" technique, and practice it over every target. That's a very critical motion. It will help to isolate your target amongst the trash, giving you that nice fluty tone.

Truthfully, I wouldn't expect you to be digging those deepies right at the beginning. At least I wasn't. It took many hours out in the field for me to finally master the tones, and figure out what a deepie sounded like. Most of my dug silver this year was in the 5-8" range. At 5-7", you should be able to pick up those signals, however, the deeper targets will take time to hear amongst a layer of trash/clad. Elusive silver coins that are mixed in with trash items(in the same hole sometimes) will take time to master. I've been going back to parks that I detected when I first got my SE, and have been able to find more deepies that were hiding next to trash/iron. I thought I cleaned an area out back then, but didn't know I was passing over good signals. The amount of signals in a given area can be quite high, and your machine will be singing a song to you(lots of tones). So, what I am saying is that you will become better, more proficient with this machine the more hours you use it.

Good luck with your SE. A lot of my buddies over here on the West coast wouldn't trade our SE's(Explorers) for any other detector. This year, we(about 7 of us) have found almost 1500 silver coins with these machines(yes, they are silver magnets), and thousands of wheaties in our local parks alone.

Good luck!

CAPTN SE
Dan

 

[Michigan Badger]

Wish I had the money to be throwing around at all of these detectors like you!

haha! I can't afford the tax on a free lunch.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Hello Badger,

A lot of my buddies over here on the West coast wouldn't trade our SE's(Explorers) for any other detector. This year, we(about 7 of us) have found almost 1500 silver coins with these machines(yes, they are silver magnets), and thousands of wheaties in our local parks alone.

Good luck!

CAPTN SE
Dan

Thanks Dan. Good writeup all the way and very encouraging.

Inside I know the SE must be great because it's about all you see out in the fields over in the UK. Even here the "professional" treasure hunters I know all use them. They're even winning over some of the old diehard Nautilus users in the deep south.

Badger

 

[Michigan Badger]

Will be interesting to hear about your next hunt and the deal to follow.

I'm really hoping it works out. I'll give it every opportunity to prove itself.

But, even in just factory preset it should be able to accomplish the depth of an Ace 250 that's adjusted wrong and tested on super mild soil. One would think anyway?

I get all sorts of conflicting stories from long time users. Some claim spectacular depth and others say it's no better than a Sovereign GT. One fellow told me it will only detect a quarter at about 8 inches max. He said most people only get about 5-7 inches with them.

I know I did better than that with my Tejon. Anyway, we shall see what we shall see. I know my buried coins don't lie.

Badger

You also have to remember that most targets will fall in that range.But if there are deeper older coins the exp.2 will find them.
I know the explorers are deep machines because i have found deep targets..but most of my recoveries have fallen in 4-8 range.But i have also found coins deeper in areas i had hunted with other detectors and missed.
also depends on what areas you hunt ie parks compared to old 1800s sites that are gone or old house yards....as to how deep some targets will be.....
My experience with these machines is that with the stock coil and your sens. set on 28 i have found coins at 8".

Thanks much.

I know I'll have to learn the difference between the false and real signals when using high sensitivity and gain.

Badger

 

[bigscrub]

hello there badger, maybe i missed something...i saw your post about the problems with your ex2 and depth ect...then i saw you sent it back ect to get checked out...i saw you mention a ribbon thing and bad connector had to be replaced for 52 bucks i guess it was...it was then coming back to you...im looking at the dates posted ect...and im trying to figure out something...did you still have a problem with the ex 2 after it came back?...could you still not get any depth from it?...im my mind i figured everything was fine after the fix job...but according to the dates of post...in only a few days i see you had a new se coming...and yeah i did read the dealer said it would take 3 months ect to get the other detector to ya...but what happened to the ex 2...why did you trade the ex 2 for an se..?...i had to miss the results of the ex 2 when you got it back...did i smile, bigscrub

 

[teverly]

i think you may be confused.
I believe mastereagle was the one that had the electronics replaced and his machine is on its way back.
i believe badgers se was a replacement machine.

 

[Michigan Badger]

hello there badger, maybe i missed something...i saw your post about the problems with your ex2 and depth ect...then i saw you sent it back ect to get checked out...i saw you mention a ribbon thing and bad connector had to be replaced for 52 bucks i guess it was...it was then coming back to you...im looking at the dates posted ect...and im trying to figure out something...did you still have a problem with the ex 2 after it came back?...could you still not get any depth from it?...im my mind i figured everything was fine after the fix job...but according to the dates of post...in only a few days i see you had a new se coming...and yeah i did read the dealer said it would take 3 months ect to get the other detector to ya...but what happened to the ex 2...why did you trade the ex 2 for an se..?...i had to miss the results of the ex 2 when you got it back...did i smile, bigscrub

teverly got it right in his reply.

My SE arrives next Tuesday 11/27

 

[Keppy]

Well i have never found that a Explorer could go any deeper than a Sovereign to me they are both the same except i have no screen on the Sovereign. I think it is just what you want to believe it is what you like best and you think it will go deeper.But to me they are equal except for the display screen.. . ==Jim==

 

[Tubecity]

Looking forward to how that Minelab works out. I'm thinking about a new
MD'er in the spring & am leaning toward a ML.
Good luck with it.