Need help with Japanese of Chinese pottery mark

[captain flintlock]

I picked these up last year as long with a few other unmarked pieces and just haven?t gotten around to posting them until now. I could use some help with identifying the mark as well as a date. I think it?s Imari ware.

 

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[tamrock]

All I can say is the one on top looks to me to be a fairly recently made piece, but the one on the bottom looks rather old. Maybe latter 19th century or there abouts would be my guess. Could be older or a bit more recent like the early 20th century. Hopefully you'll get a more detailed answer from someone who knows more about old ceramics than I do.

 

[captain flintlock]

All I can say is the one on top looks to me to be a fairly recently made piece, but the one on the bottom looks rather old. Maybe latter 19th century or there abouts would be my guess. Could be older or a bit more recent like the early 20th century. Hopefully you'll get a more detailed answer from someone who knows more about old ceramics than I do.

Yeah I know nothing about the marks. Especially when I can?t match them up with something online. I did find a Qing dynasty Tongzhi period piece plate a couple of weeks ago. Circa 1862-1875. I know that because I was able to find the mark in a reference.