new guy bottle questions

[Davecourt]

Hi.
New to bottle digging.
I can't find info on a couple bottles, they're nothing special, but I'd still like info.
First is a 2 handled jug.
Has a pontil mark on the bottom
It's not symmetrical, bubbles in the glass,and the seam stops at the top where the handles and spout start.




the 2nd is a purplish hue, I guess a whiskey type? its got bubbles as well, seams that stop at the top, but isn't in the top.
it has numbers/letters stamped on the bottom.




Thanks in advance

 

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[epackage]

First one could be a large number of things, could be anything from apple cider to cleaning chemicals. That isn't a pontil scar it's the suction mark from the bottle machine it was made on, they stopped using the pontil process 60-100 years before your jug was made. The other appears to be a ammonia bottle, would have had a paper label.

 

[Goldenplug]

The jug would make an excellent coin bank from the looks of it.

 

[Davecourt]

Suction mark?
Thanks.
I don't know enough about this stuff, better do a lot more reading.
Thanks for the help.
Dave

 

[digging440yrs]

----here ya go

 

[NJKLAGT]

Hey Davecourt,

Like epackage said, the mark on the jug is from a machine. It is either a suction mark or an ejection mark. You get suction marks on machines that suck the glass up into the mould and cut off the flow with a blade, and those marks are usually all jagged and rough. You get ejection marks like this on machines that are fed from the top via gravity and where the bottle is popped out of the mould by a rod somewhere in the process. Here is a milk bottle machine that has the unfinished glass glob (parison) being popped out (in Stage 4) so that it can be moved to the milk bottle shaped mould for final forming: https://www.sha.org/bottle/Glassmaking/pressandblow2.jpg Though yours has some roughness around the ring it doesn't look cut to me. I think that this one was probably popped out.

Your second bottle is older, it is not machine-made but hand-blown, probably somewhere around 1910. The seam stops near the top because a glassworker snapped off the blowpipe he used to fill the glass with air and had taken a tool and smoothed the jagged edge into a nice shape. The seam gets smoothed over by the tool: https://sha.org/bottle/Finishes/finishingtool.jpg

If you want to do some more reading I highly recommend this site! https://sha.org/bottle/

 

[Itsmine]

The second looks like a sun bottle too. Sun bottles have manganese in the glass. The longer it's exposed to sunlight, the darker purple it will get. (hence the name sun bottles...lol) Small air bubbles are called seeds, and you'll see these in older hand blown bottles. They can be an indicator of age, but NOT always.......I've seen modern Pier One bottles with all kinds of air bubbles in them......