NICE!!!!!! Rock Find

[bspicer4]

This is a find i found earlier this year but didn't know what in the world it was. I s was found in a tobacco field about 100 yards from a big creek.
I took it to UK and the archaeologist said it is a pre form for a banner stone.
Didn't this i have ever seen one, in person or on-line.
Needless to say it is a great piece to not only have but to have found also!

 

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[Michaelangelo]

What's a pre form for a banner stone?

 

[DCMatt]

What's a pre form for a banner stone?

My question, too. But I did a little reading and this is a very interesting find!

I'm curious if it is made from indigenous rock or something not native to the area?

DCMatt

 

[bspicer4]

Sorry for the lack of detail I was in a hurry this morning. The guys I hunt with call a addladle weight ( sorry about the spelling) a banner stone. These stone most time are in a butterfly or tube shape and was used to add weight and mass to the spear throwing stick.
As far as the stone goes it is not native to any part of Kentucky. The archaeologist said its a type of granite fount is the South west. So it has traveled a LONG way.

Thanks
BS

 

[DCMatt]

Sorry for the lack of detail I was in a hurry this morning. The guys I hunt with call a addladle weight ( sorry about the spelling) a banner stone. These stone most time are in a butterfly or tube shape and was used to add weight and mass to the spear throwing stick.
As far as the stone goes it is not native to any part of Kentucky. The archaeologist said its a type of granite fount is the South west. So it has traveled a LONG way.
Thanks
BS

That's what I was wondering. I read that there are some theories about these being trade pieces or art or of spiritual significance. Being from the south west might indicate a wider trade area than first thought. Pretty cool.

DCMatt

 

[SkyPirate]

Pretty cool

 

[allen]

Good job on that cool find !!!

 

[pointdlr]

Spicer,

Don't take this post the wrong way, your find is outstanding and very interesting. The "but" is that I can't see how that is a bannerstone preform. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is not prehistoric American at all. I don't know what it is, but I have never seen an artifact like it. I own nearly every important publication on the topic over the last hundred years, and both of the Bannerstone Books (Knoblock 1930, Lutz 2000). I also have a large collection of bannerstone preforms to compare it with. Nothing like it appears anywhere in the archaeological record for Kentucky.
I know that an archaeologist told you what his opinion is, but opinions(mine included) are just opinions. I can't tell you how many times I have recieved a call from someone telling me that the archy at the museum told them they have a very rare artifact, and I come to find out is not anything like the archy described. At one point, I starting taking pictures of all the blatant errors on display at museums I visited. The problem is that arch's are never taught the forms, materials, techniques, and classes of prehistoric artifacts. The bannerstone lesson for arch's is a paragraph in a single class entitled "problematicals".
Sorry to ramble, and I certainly don't mean to downgrade the find. You can contact me privately to discuss further.
Regards,
Jon Dickinson.

 

[CRUSADER]

Sorry for the lack of detail I was in a hurry this morning. The guys I hunt with call a addladle weight ( sorry about the spelling) a banner stone. These stone most time are in a butterfly or tube shape and was used to add weight and mass to the spear throwing stick.
As far as the stone goes it is not native to any part of Kentucky. The archaeologist said its a type of granite fount is the South west. So it has traveled a LONG way.

Thanks
BS

So did the stones of Stonehenge in 2800BC. We didn't invent travel & trade only speed it up

 

[ohio]

Interesting piece for sure. Jon I am stumped for sure and I am glad you saw this.

 

[CRUSADER]

Spicer,

Don't take this post the wrong way, your find is outstanding and very interesting. The "but" is that I can't see how that is a bannerstone preform. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is not prehistoric American at all. I don't know what it is, but I have never seen an artifact like it. I own nearly every important publication on the topic over the last hundred years, and both of the Bannerstone Books (Knoblock 1930, Lutz 2000). I also have a large collection of bannerstone preforms to compare it with. Nothing like it appears anywhere in the archaeological record for Kentucky.
I know that an archaeologist told you what his opinion is, but opinions(mine included) are just opinions. I can't tell you how many times I have recieved a call from someone telling me that the archy at the museum told them they have a very rare artifact, and I come to find out is not anything like the archy described. At one point, I starting taking pictures of all the blatant errors on display at museums I visited. The problem is that arch's are never taught the forms, materials, techniques, and classes of prehistoric artifacts. The bannerstone lesson for arch's is a paragraph in a single class entitled "problematicals".
Sorry to ramble, and I certainly don't mean to downgrade the find. You can contact me privately to discuss further.
Regards,
Jon Dickinson.

Equally, never met an archy (& I have worked with many), that know much about metal finds either Although thats not their strength, they dig things up, work out the meaning of dark patches etc in the soil & send things off to experts to ID. Its only if they have a particular interest that they are passionate about is it worth asking. In my experience.