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Obama Admits Stealing Emails, Search History, FB Messages, and More


Last night, a news story was breaking that the NSA was stealing almost all of our data. Emails, search history, browsing activity, Facebook messages — you name it, they were collecting and analyzing and storing it. This would be the biggest scandal in decades, if true.

Today, Obama admitted it. That’s right, he’s not even denying it. And he’s patting us on the heads and telling us it’s necessary and congress “knew” about it, and we should just run along and play with our toys because we should trust daddy to do what’s right.

The man is as arrogant as he is incompetent, and that’s a deadly combination for the most powerful politician on earth. Let’s look at what PRISM — the program that steals all of our data — is, what it’s for, and how Obama is “defending” it.





What is PRISM?

First, this not a conspiracy theory. Minutes ago, Obama admitted this was happening and bluntly defended it as “necessary”. This is not a movie.*This is real. This is happening. Here’s Vanity Fair and The Gaurdian with a quick explanation:

“What is PRISM? A six-year-old National Security Administration program that facilitates “extensive, in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information’ including ‘email, video and voice chat, videos, photos, voice-over-IP (Skype, for example) chats, file transfers, [and] social networking details’ the purview of which includes users of Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, YouTube, Skype, AOL, and Apple, according to*The Guardian.“

In other words, next time someone jokes about not saying certain things via email or on the phone, it’s not a joke — it’s real. Big Brother is watching you.

Who Does it Target?

They claim it’s only about bad guys in other countries, though essentially every expert right now is saying that’s essentially a lie — or misleading at best. The stated goal is to listen in on foreigners. But the actual way it works is that they keep records of anything that agents in the NSA are 51% sure involves a foreigner.

That said, that’s just the data they are currently analyzing. They actually have data on everybody. All of it. They can listen to past phone calls you have. That’s right. Here’s another story in May from the Gaurdian, likely about this before we knew what it was called:

CLEMENTE: “No, there is a way. We certainly have ways in national security investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation. It’s not necessarily something that the FBI is going to want to present in court, but it may help lead the investigation and/or lead to questioning of her. We certainly can find that out.

BURNETT: “So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is incredible.

CLEMENTE: “No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not.”

“Welcome to America.” This is happening to your country. Even though I’ve been writing about this stuff through activism for years, it’s still surreal to see our worst fears slowly come into being, even with bipartisan outrage, those in power continue to gain power with every passing day.

Who is to Blame?

This is a touchy subject, because it’s something pretty much everyone is going to struggle with. This isn’t about party politics. It’s not just the Democrats. It’s not just the Republicans.

Both Bush and Obama have overseen this unconstitutional, illegal, abusive system. Not just one. Both.

They’re both to blame. They both helped run it. This is a time for conservatives, liberals, and libertarians to find common ground and push back. Those in power are motivated only by the power — and we have to see this and understand it before it’s*too late.

What Has Obama Said?

Obama has essentially made it clear he doesn’t care that we’re ticked off as a country. He couldn’t care less. He has explained today already:
“There are some tradeoffs involved…*Modest encroachments on privacy.”

He admits it. Openly. And he doesn’t care what you think.

Are the Companies Denying It?

Yes. Google, Apple, and other countries initially denied all of the above flatly. But there’s a reason for this. Legally, they can’t admit it’s happening. They’d go to prison. That’s what the USA PATRIOT Act helped do.

That means, legally, Obama can waltz into Google, force Google to send a copy of all data to the NSA so they can have a file on everything about you, and if Google even says anything about it, their leadership would be imprisoned.

There are a couple of words for what this is: unconstitutional, tyranny, and treason. “Welcome to America”, indeed.

This Is Happening Over and Over

The Department of Justice said they can read your emails without a warrant. That’s not even the NSA. That means they would actually be targeting you openly — without a warrant.

Obama also admits to stealing phone records of millions of Americans. The NY Times even said Obama “lost all credibility” on this issue.

What We Must Do About This

First, we need to repeal the USA PATRIOT Act. Liberals didn’t trust Bush, conservatives don’t trust Obama, and libertarians don’t trust either man. The only compromise should be to make sure no president can unconstitutionally spy on peaceful Americans.

If they have a suspected terrorist, they just need to get a warrant like the 4th Amendment of the constitution plainly states.

Next, we absolutely must impeach Obama and any future president who engages in similar crimes against the American people. This is illegal, immoral, and tyrannical. Impeach him already, goodness.

But the first step is to get people riled up. They have to know what’s happening. This has to go viral. People have to wake up and get angry before we can fix anything.


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You got to love Obama - talk about double standards. Such a shame...
 

it is all connected to the 2nd as well as the rest of the bor.
 

OD, I've seen you mostly agree with many of my posts, and I thank you for that. I see what is happening right now as a danger to our children. You and I will just die and fade away, remembered only by our kids.

The liberals pound us for this same reason - Treasure Hunting versus the Moderator's very broad acceptance of posts within "Second Amendment Watchdog Forum". If you think about it, what we face today goes far further than just gun rights. It's about the future we face.

Please be tolerant of us, we here - the few of us who some consider paranoid - but we really aren't. Current events legitimize all of our fears.

We care about the direction of our country of birth - it ain't what it used to be 50, 40, 30, 20, 10 years ago - and you can see that every single day on whatever news you follow.

Join us in caring, please. I think you care already from some of your posts I have read. It's not about us Old Dudes anymore. It's about what we leave behind us, and what we allow.
 

It does not matter when it started or under what administrations it has gone on under, dem or rep doesn't matter, it needs to stop now!

We are a constitutional republic, not a Socialist or Marxist dictatorship.

The rights and freedoms we are on the verge of losing are our kids and grandkids rights and freedoms too..


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For the record, I don't think you are paranoid. At least by the medical definition of paranoid. I gave you a like on your post not because I agreed with the content (because I don't) but because I felt it was very well said. So....WELL SAID! It is nice to see thoughts exchanged like this.
 

Are you people the same ones who grumble about standing in line longer for an air trip? It is a necessity and if YOU have to have a slight imposition for MY safety, so sorry.

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OD, I don't fly, I drive :)

Lines at airports should be longer - we do have enemies outside.

Keep the faith, and do try to understand the opinions of others. We tolerate you.
 

And, Crispin, once again thank you for your tolerance of us, even though you mostly do not agree with what we say. As you have seen in the many people you have met in your life - as have I - tolerance and understanding of differing opinions is the basis of our democracy. In no sense whatsoever, will we always agree. Each of us need to realize that.
 

Are you people the same ones who grumble about standing in line longer for an air trip? It is a necessity and if YOU have to have a slight imposition for MY safety, so sorry.

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Sorry, but I am not willing to sacrifice my rights and freedoms nor the rights and freedoms of my kids and unborn grand kids for the "illusion" of security. Terrorists will never have to strike us again never have to fire another shot and they will still have won if we allow the government to take away our rights and freedoms in the name of supposedly security from a terrorist.......


I have no fear of any terrorist attack and if I die in one I die in one, my fear is not in the terrorist attacks against us, it is in our government taking away our rights and freedoms under our Constitution using their false promise of security....... Spying on tens of millions of Americans who have committed no crimes and are under no suspicion of any crime is tyranny......

What is happening now is worst that what was happening under a King 237 years ago when our forefathers rebelled..
 

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Sorry, but I am not willing to sacrifice my rights and freedom nor the rights and freedoms of my kids and unborm grand kids for the "illusion" of security. Terrorists will never have to strike us again never have to fire another shot and they will still have won if we allow the government to take away our rights and freedoms in the name of supposedly security from a terrorist.......


I have no fear of any terrorist attack and if I die in one I die in one, my fear is not in the terrorist attacks against us, it is in our government taking away our rights and freedoms under our Constitution using their false promise of security....... Spying on tens of millions of Americans who have committed no crimes and are under no suspicion of any crime is tyranny......

What is happening now is worst that what was happening under a King 237 years ago when our forefathers rebelled..

TH you almost had me here. I agree with everything you say here except the last two lines. I too oppose trading liberty for security. I think there's a Thomas jefferson quote that covers that base. This is the basis of my problem with Real ID. Which most of you see as no more than something having to do with the DMV.

That said i remember going tooth and nail against the right when these laws were being created. They were down with the Patriot Act, the creation of DHS, and the passage of Real ID. My take then and now "Are you out of your minds!"
 

Apparently some folks haven't been to an ICE station on an interstate 200 miles inland from the border, nor had their luggage and i.d. checked at a bus or train station. Neither have they been asked, "Where are you going and what are you going to do there" at a DUI checkpoint.

Again, no reason for any of that to be going on except the expansion of the terror industrial complex.

The good old U.S. of A. now has over 2.5 million of its' citizens in prison and builds more prisons than schools. Is that due to the good old U.S. of A. having more criminals than anyone else or what?
 

1. a federal judge authorized PRISM

2. Congress knows about this. Why isn't Trey or Rand screaming foul at the top of their lungs? They are down with this.

If your guys are Ok with this, why aren't you?

Are our leaders arrogant for doing no more than what is necessary to protect us?

I totally agree with you on not trading liberty for freedom. Intensely so. I too am not happy over what i am learning. The slippery slope revealed. But unlike you, i don't blame our president. I blame every right wing coward who demanded to be protected after 911. Patriot act, DHS, Real ID. Thank you George Bush! Thank you Dick Cheney! Thank you Condoleeza Rice! Thank you Donald Rumsfeld!! And thank you right wing apologist who voted these characters into power.

Now we all pay!
 

The real problem is, "Is ANY government capable of assembling this amount and kind of information without abusing it?"

I hope everyone agrees that this it is the problem correctly stated.

It is NOT about Obama, Bush, or any other personality. To go there is to miss the problem (and divide us), which I think is critical to all Americans.

This is a Watershed Moment. If we pass on this, there is no going back. No red pill.

I am happy that most posters are going past "party" lines which are idiotic at best and assessing the threat to the Constitution. Fourth Amendment specifically. Not only that, but: On December 14, 2010, in United States v. Warshak, the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled that a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy in his emails and that the government violated Warshak's Fourth Amendment rights by compelling his internet service provider to turn over his emails without first obtaining a warrant based upon probable cause.

I hope we can all agree with that ruling and it should never change.
 

1. a federal judge authorized PRISM

2. Congress knows about this. Why isn't Trey or Rand screaming foul at the top of their lungs? They are down with this.

If your guys are Ok with this, why aren't you?

Are our leaders arrogant for doing no more than what is necessary to protect us?

I totally agree with you on not trading liberty for freedom. Intensely so. I too am not happy over what i am learning. The slippery slope revealed. But unlike you, i don't blame our president. I blame every right wing coward who demanded to be protected after 911. Patriot act, DHS, Real ID. Thank you George Bush! Thank you Dick Cheney! Thank you Condoleeza Rice! Thank you Donald Rumsfeld!! And thank you right wing apologist who voted these characters into power.

Now we all pay!


1.) Here is the thing, all of congress did not know, Obama forgot to tell congress...

Massachusetts lawmakers say they had no idea the feds are collecting millions of phone records from ordinary Americans — pushing back against President Obama’s claims that all congressional members knew about the domestic spy program.

“When it comes to telephone calls, every member of Congress has been briefed on this program,” President Obama said at a press conference yesterday.
He also called reports on sweeping efforts by the National Security Agency to seize phone records, as well access Internet search histories, emails and online chat messages, for average citizens “hype.”



“That’s not true,” U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Boston) said. “Certainly we understood that in specific instances the FBI would be able to go with evidence and probable cause and get a court order. They did not brief us on how it was being implemented.”

Lynch called for investigations into why the NSA has been collecting phone data from millions of customers for seven years — something he said was never intended by lawmakers.
“It’s absolutely government overreach. It was supposed to be targeted toward specific threats,” he said.

U.S. Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Somerville), who has railed against the domestic spying as “un-American,” said he only found out about the NSA programs through media reports, while U.S. Rep. James McGovern’s office said he also had been unaware of the programs.

“I am profoundly concerned about the allegations that government agencies have been secretly collecting the communication records of American citizens for the past several years,” he said in a statement yesterday. “This is one of the prime reasons I have consistently opposed the Patriot Act: Basic inalienable civil rights, such as freedom of speech and protection of personal privacy are sacred, and shouldn’t exist under a cloud of government surveillance.”

U.S. Rep. Joseph Kennedy III (D-Brookline), who told the Herald he was never briefed that the NSA could tap into citizens’ phone and email records, said, “As that debate evolves, as much of that as possible needs to play out in the public so that Americans have a say as to what freedoms we want to compromise and what risk we’re willing to tolerate.”


Bay State Dems dispute Obama?s data claims | Boston Herald


2.) They are screaming about this...




June 9th, 2013
10:45 AM ET



Rand Paul says he might sue government








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CNN's Greg Clary Washington (CNN)

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, said Sunday he's looking into suing the federal government in the wake of what has been a tumultuous week for the Obama administration and National Security Agency.

"I'm going to be seeing if I can challenge this at the Supreme Court level. I'm going to be asking the Internet providers and all of the phone companies; ask your customers to join me in a class-action lawsuit," Paul said on FOX News Sunday.

"If we get 10 million Americans saying, 'We don't want our phone records looked at' then maybe someone will wake up and things will change in Washington."
The controversy began this week after multiple published reports said the NSA has been mining the phone and Internet records of both U.S. citizens and people around the world in a quest to prevent terrorist attacks.

President Obama addressed the issue Friday, saying the information gathered is extremely broad and that the government isn't monitoring the content of the data or people's names unless they have probable cause and a warrant.

But Paul said this data collection is by no means a modest invasion of privacy and in fact may even weaken America's counterterrorism operations.
"We are looking through so much data that I think it makes our fight against terrorism worse," Paul said.

In the end, Paul - known as a strong proponent of civil liberties - said this intelligence-gathering strategy is simply a step too far.
"I think the American people are with me and I think if you talk to young people who use computers on a daily basis, they are absolutely with me," Paul said.


Rand Paul says he might sue government ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs



By the way the buck stops at the White House, it always has, Ask Nixon.........
 

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him in so far as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.” (President Theodore Roosevelt, 1918.)
 

Some will always blindly support Obama and blame Bush for everything under the sun...
 

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