Official Equinox Headphone Thread

[flgliderpilot]

Just use the CTX Koss ones or the GGA..

I just made up an adapter and all set to go.... View attachment 1551349

What fitting is that for the male side of the adapter?

 

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[Jeff In North Georgia]

Just use the CTX Koss ones or the GGA..

I just made up an adapter and all set to go.... View attachment 1551349

You made the Equinox connector right? Used a PG7 strain relief and a 3.5mm / 1/8" male headphone cable.

Real connector looks like this.

 

[toddbbq]

I have 4 of those ML adapters ordered already to modify with the CTX headphones. I am going to rethread the pg7 strain relief to the metric 12mm threads as a temporary work around till I can get the OFFICIAL MINELAB proprietary connectors. I will be water hunting very soon here in FL as our water temps are already pushing the low 70,s Adapter is not fully assembled as I do not have my EQ yet

 

[WIDirtFishing]

Let us know how the wireless capabilities are underwater. The manual says the wireless will not work under water. Idk how truthful that is, but I’m curious if a set of aptX BT headphones with a ipx8 waterproof rating would be ideal!
Usually nice and small, wireless, submersible to 3 meters...
it’ll be interesting to see if the wireless audio is jacked up or increased lag due to being under water

 

[vferrari]

Let us know how the wireless capabilities are underwater. The manual says the wireless will not work under water. Idk how truthful that is, but I’m curious if a set of aptX BT headphones with a ipx8 waterproof rating would be ideal!
Usually nice and small, wireless, submersible to 3 meters...
it’ll be interesting to see if the wireless audio is jacked up or increased lag due to being under water

I read somewhere if the transmitter (control box of the EQ in this case) is continuously submerged greater than 6 inches to a foot, then you will not get a signal (consistent with Deus). BT transmits at about 2.4 GHz which is highly attenuated in water especially at the low powers we are talking about. Also, if you use APT X you will want to test to see if the lag is not a problem (about ~120 ms more lag than APT X LL as discussed above). I have not been able to find any IPX rated APT X LL headphones.

 

[flgliderpilot]

I have 4 of those ML adapters ordered already to modify with the CTX headphones. I am going to rethread the pg7 strain relief to the metric 12mm threads as a temporary work around till I can get the OFFICIAL MINELAB proprietary connectors. I will be water hunting very soon here in FL as our water temps are already pushing the low 70,s Adapter is not fully assembled as I do not have my EQ yet View attachment 1552637

Suddenly the area becomes a level playing field as several of us will be using equinoxes on the same beaches... things get more challenging : D

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

As soon as Dave and mine arrive, hopefully next week, we are going to work on a mod so our 3030 GG Amphibians H/P will work on it, going to make a mod using the 3030 connector.

 

[JackalopeZL1]

A guy on another forum made a adapter already too. That didn't take long.

 

[toddbbq]

we are an ingenious bunch lol. The heck with a proprietary connector lol or months waiting for it.

 

[toddbbq]

Suddenly the area becomes a level playing field as several of us will be using equinoxes on the same beaches... things get more challenging : D

Now instead of the usual people we see on a weekly basis we will see more out here swinging away..

 

[WIDirtFishing]

I read somewhere if the transmitter (control box of the EQ in this case) is continuously submerged greater than 6 inches to a foot, then you will not get a signal (consistent with Deus). BT transmits at about 2.4 GHz which is highly attenuated in water especially at the low powers we are talking about. Also, if you use APT X you will want to test to see if the lag is not a problem (about ~120 ms more lag than APT X LL as discussed above). I have not been able to find any IPX rated APT X LL headphones.

I guess they are pretty few and far between. I did find these though.
Supposedly aptX & ipx8 rating. Should be good for 1-3 meters underwater with that rating.
I would assume if they are true aptX (did not list as LL aptX though) then the lag shouldn’t be to far off of the Minelab headphones.
However, being a long time Amazon buyer, Not all listings are 100% truthful.

 

[vferrari]

They will lag as they are about 4x more leggy than APTX LL. Even though they are IPX 8 rated that just means they will not get damaged at the rated water pressure but you won't be able to transmit a radio signal more than a few inches under the water so its kind of a moot point other than knowing they will survive a good dunking should you step into a hole or get knocked over by a wave. If the control box is going to be more or less continuously submerged you really need to be hard wired to the detector.

 

[WIDirtFishing]

They will lag as they are about 4x more leggy than APTX LL. Even though they are IPX 8 rated that just means they will not get damaged at the rated water pressure but you won't be able to transmit a radio signal more than a few inches under the water so its kind of a moot point other than knowing they will survive a good dunking should you step into a hole or get knocked over by a wave. If the control box is going to be more or less continuously submerged you really need to be hard wired to the detector.

For someone scuba diving or snorkeling that would be an issue, but for the average detectorist or someone like me that lives in Minnesota and really doesn’t venture past waist deep it shouldn’t be a problem. I just want a pair of nice, small & light BT headphones that don’t make my ears sweat in the summer & won’t be ruined if they drop outta my ears into waist deep water.
Even a common aptx lag of 120-60ms I don’t think is too big of a turn off, at-least for my application. Once a target is hit I’m going to go back over it with a slow swing and the lag effect should be minimal.
But for the sake of argument & knowledge (cause I’ve not owned any wireless capable detector), even if the control box is submerged 6-12”, it would affect the signal that much?

 

[vferrari]

For someone scuba diving or snorkeling that would be an issue, but for the average detectorist or someone like me that lives in Minnesota and really doesn’t venture past waist deep it shouldn’t be a problem. I just want a pair of nice, small & light BT headphones that don’t make my ears sweat in the summer & won’t be ruined if they drop outta my ears into waist deep water.
Even a common aptx lag of 120-60ms I don’t think is too big of a turn off, at-least for my application. Once a target is hit I’m going to go back over it with a slow swing and the lag effect should be minimal.
But for the sake of argument & knowledge (cause I’ve not owned any wireless capable detector), even if the control box is submerged 6-12”, it would affect the signal that much?

Yeah, having the control box continuously submerged at all is pretty much a show as far as wireless is concerned. I own a Deus which also has a wireless coil and you actually have to string an antenna wire above the waterline if you are using the coil continuously submerged more than 6 inches to a foot. However, if you are doing what you are doing in waist deep water, I think the control box will mainly stay above the water line, I think, and you should be ok for only occasional submersions.

Regarding lag, it really is just a matter of being able to try the various offerings out. As you say, APT X should be ok for most purposes unless you are running the unit at maximum recovery speed (and even then, who knows, it still might be ok). In fact, some folks have even reported satisfactory results with regular SBC codec standard BT. I plan to try out a pair of water resistant sports phones by Anker and they are only APT X. As always, YMMV.

 

[Jeff In North Georgia]

I have 4 of those ML adapters ordered already to modify with the CTX headphones. I am going to rethread the pg7 strain relief to the metric 12mm threads as a temporary work around till I can get the OFFICIAL MINELAB proprietary connectors. I will be water hunting very soon here in FL as our water temps are already pushing the low 70,s Adapter is not fully assembled as I do not have my EQ yet View attachment 1552637

I would think that these connectors will be like the Garrett ATP headphone connectors and will not be sold to the public. Something "special" to Minelab headphones.

 

[toddbbq]

I would think that these connectors will be like the Garrett ATP headphone connectors and will not be sold to the public. Something "special" to Minelab headphones.

The AT Pro head phone connectors can be found through a few online vendors. Mouser electrical supply and Newark components. Sadly the Equinox waterproof connector seems for now to be only sold by Minelab.

 

[Jeff In North Georgia]

Would need a connector like this.

 

[toddbbq]

Just like that one. I wish I had access to a bunch of tools like you do. Did you just bore out the inside of the M12 connector?

 

[Jeff In North Georgia]

Just like that one. I wish I had access to a bunch of tools like you do. Did you just bore out the inside of the M12 connector?

Its not quite that simple but yes, this is a connector I modified for this purpose.

 

[WIDirtFishing]

Has anyone heard or seen how much the WM 08 wireless module will be?
I’m ordering on Wednesday a 600 or 800. I really want the wireless audio option but i could wait for it and buy the wireless Module later.
For what I need the 600 running at all 5 frequencies in multi mode is enough. I really don’t need the gold mode or some of the advance settings. But would really like the wireless audio, so if the module won’t be too much more expensive I would rather get the 600.
Any advice would be appreciated.