Old Derringer I.D.?

[TJE]

This was a gift from an Elder Cree native friend about 20 yrs. ago from the Lesser Slave Lake area in Northwestern Alberta while I lived and worked in Westren Canada for 25 or so years. I was told he found it outside the entrance of the remnants of an old log cabin buried under the dirt along what was back then called 'The Peace Trail'.
Left side (in brass?) stamped- Oxford St. London
Right side- E.M. Reilly & Co.

Any information on the history and dates of the maker would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

 

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[kuger]

Rare E.M. Reilly & Company Agent-Marked London Col

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[TJE]

Rare E.M. Reilly & Company Agent-Marked London Col

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Thanks Kuger, will check into this site.

 

[kuger]

Thats all I could find.Neat find,for sure.I wonder what happened to it?

 

[TJE]

Thats all I could find.Neat find,for sure.I wonder what happened to it?

Where they called a 'boot gun' back then?...maybe it was just accidently lost.?

 

[kuger]

I do beleive that style was often referred to as a Boot Pistol yes.It appears mangled?.....geeze,in my haste I didnt notice it was a swivel loader....not "mangled",the barrel swiveled to the side to load!

 

[TJE]

Yes, quite smooth action for its condition, trigger and hammer move freely (no springs left inside) my guess, handle deteriorated and the barrel is 'pitted' from who knows how long under the earth?

 

[TJE]

Yes, quite smooth action for its condition, trigger and hammer move freely (no springs left inside) my guess, handle deteriorated and the barrel is 'pitted' from who knows how long under the earth?

pics of load and eject right hand swivel action.

 

[kuger]

Very cool!I have a Sharps Pepperbox that loads like that.....well,I take that back....it slides At any rate I have seen those swivel barrels!!

 

[TJE]

Only pics I've found on net of close resemblance is 'Nickel plated' none with the possibly?'brass' base.

 

[TJE]

Still can't find any photos or info of this antique with possible brass? base.

 

[kuger]

...me either!

 

[TJE]

...me either!

Ha! Another mystery Kuger!! ??

 

[ctalmadg]

This gun had a few variations - so the pic might not be the exact one.

SN P37561. Cal. .41 Short RF. "H" assemblers' stamp on grip frame. Piece was finished with silver plated frame and blued bbl, and burl walnut grips. Piece was imported by Von Oppen and has the ".41 CAL" and Rampant Colt and "C" in left side of frame. Sold to E.M.Reilly & Co. London, as evidenced by dealership name on right side of frame. This double dealership stamping is seldom seen. PROVENANCE: L.D. Eberhart Collection. CONDITION: Orig finished with silver plated frame and blued bbl. Traces of silver only under grips on frame. Frame retains "C" and Rampant Colt denoting sale at 14 pall Mall agency. Right side has engraved standard "E.M. Reilly & Co. LONDON" markings showing bought at 14 Pall Mall then resold by Reilly. Bbl retains only traces of blue on right side where ejector housing is. Remainder of bbl is gun metal gray and smooth. Deluxe grade walnut grips are completely all present except one small gouge measuring approx. 5 or 6 mm x 3 mm on back side of right grip near frame. Otherwise they are nearly perfect and retain 50% of orig varnish with normal use and wear markings. A hard example to obtain.†† 4-47470 DE90

 

[TJE]

Thanks ctalmadg.
This pic is 'very' similar....but the "Right side on mine says E.M.Reilly & Co"...there's no 'LONDON'?
It is on the 'Left side' saying "OXFORD St. LONDON".?

 

[ctalmadg]

Yeah, just a different variation. Same make. From what I read there were 6 or more variations on that derringer.