Ornate umbrella handle from 1860's shipwreck.

[lukdiver2]

Anyone ever see a umbrella handle this ornate? Recovered on 1860's English shipwreck. Once freed from iron conglomerate my brother thought it was a pistol handle and once he brought it up I told him 'Think Mary Poppins'. The wooden piece is being conserved separately and brother dissapointed to not find any makers mark. Other brass piece is 'dragon lamp-gimbal'. It is on the small size so I'm almost thinking a candlestick gimbal holder?

 

[The Rebel]

Nice recovery & conservation!

 

[oldmxrat]

Wow, super cool finds!

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Where does the wood belong?

 

[E-Trac-Ohio]

A very interesting find - congrats !

 

[lukdiver2]

Where does the wood belong?

The hollow part of handle is where wood was.

 

[Gare]

My first thought was a pistol handle. What about a saber handle ?

 

[ArfieBoy]

Very cool!

 

[BAW]

The handle seems to have two small holes and a slot right in the area the trigger guard and trigger would be in if it were a pistol handle. I can’t think of a reason why an umbrella handle would have holes and a slot in that location. If you do an internet image for “pepperbox” you will see that it might be a pistol frame / handle after all.

 

[pepperj]

The handle seems to have two small holes and a slot right in the area the trigger guard and trigger would be in if it were a pistol handle. I can’t think of a reason why an umbrella handle would have holes and a slot in that location. If you do an internet image for “pepperbox” you will see that it might be a pistol frame / handle after all.

I see what you are saying.

 

[lukdiver2]

The handle seems to have two small holes and a slot right in the area the trigger guard and trigger would be in if it were a pistol handle. I can’t think of a reason why an umbrella handle would have holes and a slot in that location. If you do an internet image for “pepperbox” you will see that it might be a pistol frame / handle after all.

You're correct. Brother looked closer and far too intricate for a umbrella. The internal trigger parts were steel and didn't survive. Pity there's no maker's mark. Must have been a valuable piece at that time. Thanks

 

[Digger RJ]

Anyone ever see an umbrella handle this ornate? Recovered on 1860's English shipwreck. Once freed from iron conglomerate my brother thought it was a pistol handle and once he brought it up I told him 'Think Mary Poppins'. The wooden piece is being conserved separately and brother dissapointed to not find any makers mark. Other brass piece is 'dragon lamp-gimbal'. It is on the small size so I'm almost thinking a candlestick gimbal holder?

Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!