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Great story, Jeff. But alas, time is everyone's enemy. the site is a busy shipping lane and must be buried deep in the river mud. Mud Island is no longer an island but close to or part of the airport. As you can see in the picture below.
Map below of events.
.The site of the HMS Merlin (k) is today under landfill at Philadelphia Airport BELOW.
Tony Frazer Claims below "The La Jean Florin is most likely a myth...this is from research gathered...the following is from an online wreck database.
La Jean Florin: Frigate sank 7/?/1721 approximately 5 miles offshore between Erie, Pennsylvania and Barcelona, New York according to Ackerman. However, we are unable to find confirming documentation. Swayze suggests that the Florin more than likely sank off Barcelona Spain, since no vessels of its type were reported to have sailed the upper lakes at this date. We recently received word from Brendon Baillod which I have quoted as follows: "I wanted to let you know that I did find reference to a vessel by the name of Le Jean Florin that was lost off Barcelona, Spain. It was just a casual reference in a recent treasure hunting book, but along with the obvious historical contradictions, it does pretty much exclude this vessel from serious consideration as a Great Lakes wreck. I tried to track down the unscrupulous researcher who first propagated this myth and I traced it back to the late 1960s and one of the many obscure, low budget treasure books that were produced without references or footnotes. The authors (who aren't named) try to list possible sources for treasure in the Great Lakes and mistakenly placed Le Jean Florin off Barcelona, New York. I suspect it was done purposefully to sell books. I am relatively sure that this is the source of the myth because the wreck does not appear in any Great Lakes materials before the late 1960s."
You may wish to investigate further...of course it is a good story as is..."
Even so, some stories like these can lead to the money ticket and not the famous ones people flock to. It is just finding the right story that has enough legs to run into a fascinating story that has interesting possibilities.
Thanks, Jeff, for finding the stories.
With these treasure stories, large or small, I like to use the Goldilocks principle.
1. too vague or just a legend; no facts to support it
2. Just right: has Real facts and is workable into a project.
3. Real but unworkable as a project.
Crow
.The site of the HMS Merlin (k) is today under landfill at Philadelphia Airport BELOW.
Tony Frazer Claims below "The La Jean Florin is most likely a myth...this is from research gathered...the following is from an online wreck database.
La Jean Florin: Frigate sank 7/?/1721 approximately 5 miles offshore between Erie, Pennsylvania and Barcelona, New York according to Ackerman. However, we are unable to find confirming documentation. Swayze suggests that the Florin more than likely sank off Barcelona Spain, since no vessels of its type were reported to have sailed the upper lakes at this date. We recently received word from Brendon Baillod which I have quoted as follows: "I wanted to let you know that I did find reference to a vessel by the name of Le Jean Florin that was lost off Barcelona, Spain. It was just a casual reference in a recent treasure hunting book, but along with the obvious historical contradictions, it does pretty much exclude this vessel from serious consideration as a Great Lakes wreck. I tried to track down the unscrupulous researcher who first propagated this myth and I traced it back to the late 1960s and one of the many obscure, low budget treasure books that were produced without references or footnotes. The authors (who aren't named) try to list possible sources for treasure in the Great Lakes and mistakenly placed Le Jean Florin off Barcelona, New York. I suspect it was done purposefully to sell books. I am relatively sure that this is the source of the myth because the wreck does not appear in any Great Lakes materials before the late 1960s."
You may wish to investigate further...of course it is a good story as is..."
Even so, some stories like these can lead to the money ticket and not the famous ones people flock to. It is just finding the right story that has enough legs to run into a fascinating story that has interesting possibilities.
Thanks, Jeff, for finding the stories.
With these treasure stories, large or small, I like to use the Goldilocks principle.
1. too vague or just a legend; no facts to support it
2. Just right: has Real facts and is workable into a project.
3. Real but unworkable as a project.
Crow
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