Those convinced against their will, are of the same mind still. Value is what you get for the amount you spent, and the value ratio favors my choice IMO. Apparently Garrett must see that also, as they have done a total redesign of their propointer to counter the new competition, the X-pointer(that doesn't false) and the Makro (waterproof). From what I have heard, the new propointer will be $149. So if that is true, I would expect to see the old propointers selling for around $99. Competition is good! You can bet all the other manufactures are re-evaluating their prices, their performance, and features vs the competition.