Please help me identify this bayonet

[ninjaisme02]

All I really know is that it says on the handle and the case is”c 9797” that’s probably the only thing that you can’t really see in the photos. I know little to nothing about bayonets. My grandfather said that he got it in Europe if that helps any.

 

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[A2coins]

Looks like a German knife. and pretty old just my guess

 

[A2coins]

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[ARC]

Looks like a German knife. and pretty old just my guess

It is

 

[Retired Sarge]

Obviously a German made bayonet, made by Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co Solingen. I believe based on what I'm seeing it was most likely made as an Export bayonet.

Maybe Chile........ If there is a star in the shield it would confirm that. Which would mean it was made for the Chilean M1895 Mauser rifle. These bayonets were made for Chile begining in 1895 through 1901. So pre World War 1.

Edit to add:

Look at the first bayonet in this link, lends credence to being a Chilean bayonet.

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Chile/Chile_2.html

 

[firemanphob]

Welcome from Indiana Nice piece by the way

 

[Retired Sarge]

Did some more checking and I'm not finding anything thus far to contradict my guess.

 

[ARC]

Obviously a German made bayonet, made by Weyersberg Kirschbaum & Co Solingen. I believe based on what I'm seeing it was most likely made as an Export bayonet.

Maybe Chile........ If there is a star in the shield it would confirm that. Which would mean it was made for the Chilean M1895 Mauser rifle. These bayonets were made for Chile begining in 1895 through 1901. So pre World War 1.

Edit to add:

Look at the first bayonet in this link, lends credence to being a Chilean bayonet.

Bayonets of Chile

If Chilean... it would have three circle mark and coat of arms mark.

 

[Professor of Engineering]

German made, nice piece! Also, welcome to the forum!

 

[Retired Sarge]

If Chilean... it would have three circle mark and coat of arms mark.

The Star within a Shield is the Chilean State Crest

The three intertwined circles on the ricasso are the trademark of the famous steelworks, Krupp (pronounced 'Kroop'), who supplied the blade steel. The three rings symbolized the Radreifen, the seamless railway wheels patented in 1851 by Alfred Krupp. At the turn of the Century, when these bayonets were made, Krupp was the largest company in Europe.

As a note of interest Steyr made bayonets for the Chilean M95s also, they are lacking in the Krupp marking.

A possibilty is, by looking at the lack of definition of the Shield, the blade could have been polished to point of obliterating the Krupp marking. See below picture of a blade with a partial Krupp marking. Plus a picture of the OPs bayonet showing the shield.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Some more confusion. Here's a bayonet for the M1912 Mauser, marked with just a Star Shield. It's the third one down on the following link. There is some interesting deductions, but it remains as a unknown as of know.

Unknown / Unidentified Bayonets

I sent an email to the author of the page and recieved the following from him....

"It’s not clear whether these are Chilean. They are almost certainly So. American export pieces. They may be Chilean, but we just don’t know. There is a lot about So. American Mauser bayonets that hasn’t yet been sorted out with certainty. There were so many small contracts, with countries using multiple Mauser rifles from multiple makers. Another example is this M1912 bayonet pictured on the Unknown/Unidentified Page of my site"