Real engelhard bars?

[Deadaman]

Went to a sale and I asked the man if he had any silver, and he promptly pulls out four of these 1 oz engelhard bars. I was at first put off by them due to the weird tarnishing, but he offered a deal that if I found them to be fake I could return them (paid 70 for all of em).

Their dimensions are 5 cm long, 3.8 cm wide and .2 cm in depth.

I used both a magnet test and water displacement test, which had them come out at ~ 9.8. Each one weighs 31.3 grams.

I’m not sure if they are real or not. I’m leaning towards fake, but if not it’s definitely a great deal for me. If anyone has more info that can help, I’d appreciate it.

 

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[Beachkid23]

They look real. Probably just tarnished because they weren’t in the protector.

 

[Rodbuster209]

They look real to me, l have seen them look like a rainbow, the dealer called it toning.

 

[Megalodon]

They look real but handled. Maybe used as paperweights? Not sure why you think it is a "great" deal, though. Try selling them at a coin shop for more than $70. If genuine, the price seems fair to both buyer and seller.

 

[Deadaman]

They look real but handled. Maybe used as paperweights? Not sure why you think it is a "great" deal, though. Try selling them at a coin shop for more than $70. If genuine, the price seems fair to both buyer and seller.

I say great because it was a little under spot, and I hold most silver.

 

[galenrog]

Have them checked by a professional. Pawn Shop. Coin Shop. Gold Buyer.

Time for more coffee.

 

[ARC]

They are real. 100%

 

[trdking]

They look real to me as well. They will come in at exactly 1 troy ounce. If they are over they are fakes.

 

[Deadaman]

They look real to me as well. They will come in at exactly 1 troy ounce. If they are over they are fakes.

They are on average .2 grams over, but I’m unsure if that much indicates a fake.

 

[BillA]

those bars are more accurate than your scale

edit: a calibrated test weight is not too pricey

 

[Clad2Silver]

They look real but handled. Maybe used as paperweights? Not sure why you think it is a "great" deal, though. Try selling them at a coin shop for more than $70. If genuine, the price seems fair to both buyer and seller.

You can't buy something for $70 and then turn right around and sell it for MORE than $70 good deal or no good deal. But if the market rises you most certainly CAN sell them for more than you paid. Buying silver bullion at spot is pretty much the going price nowadays whatever the market price so it was a pretty good deal.

 

[BillA]

Not mine :P

but you don't have his bars . . . .
cheap scales can be way off

 

[BillA]

great scott, 50k likes and you're soliciting
they look fine, needs a better scale + test weight

Dm, if you weigh the same bar over and over, what is the variation ?

edit: more better ?

 

[BillA]

ping, another one

 

[BillA]

ping
man, you're on a roll

 

[BillA]

ping
no, I will add an edit if no intervening posts; don't delete
I will start quoting you so your words will forever accompany us
btw, I'm not sure but that the 'like' counter is simply that

 

[ARC]

Bill is correct... cheap scales are off by 1-2 points on average.

I would definitely attribute the OP's discrepancy to this as well... in other words...

I am agreed.

 

[Deadaman]

ping
no, I will add an edit if no intervening posts; don't delete
I will start quoting you so your words will forever accompany us
btw, I'm not sure but that the 'like' counter is simply that

Are you talking about me or?

 

[BillA]

Are you talking about me or?

no, ARC about deleting his posts - now really unclear ? ? ?

Dm, if you weigh the same bar over and over, what is the variation ?

 

[BillA]

ping
lol (NB I always am speaking for my ears - if I don't want to hear it, why would anyone else ?)

edit: if there is no meat . . . .