Real engelhard bars?

[RTR]

They look real to me

 

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[Deadaman]

no, ARC about deleting his posts - now really unclear ? ? ?

Dm, if you weigh the same bar over and over, what is the variation ?

All of them weight 31.3 grams

 

[BillA]

All of them weight 31.3 grams

understood, not my question
if you weigh one bar 10 times, what is the range of the readings ?
this looks at repeatability, not accuracy per se

 

[Deadaman]

understood, not my question
if you weigh one bar 10 times, what is the range of the readings ?
this looks at repeatability, not accuracy per se

Always 31.3.

 

[BillA]

repeatability ok, more than likely the meter is off as all 4 are the same (and I and others think they look fine)
do you have a graduated cylinder of 50cc ?
know anyone in a cal shop ?

you have 0.1gm resolution, what is the total scale capacity ?

edit: does the scale have a zero button ?

 

[DeepseekerADS]

What is a Troy Ounce?

Isn't it 31.103

What else you got to worry about? Passed the silver test, right?

 

[BillA]

the OP had 31.3 gm, overweight is an indicator of falsity
is scale accurate ?

 

[Deadaman]

repeatability ok, more than likely the meter is off as all 4 are the same (and I and others think they look fine)
do you have a graduated cylinder of 50cc ?
know anyone in a cal shop ?

you have 0.1gm resolution, what is the total scale capacity ?

edit: does the scale have a zero button ?

No cylinder, and water the water test with real gravity was already done. Yes it does have a zero button.

 

[Deadaman]

What is a Troy Ounce?

Isn't it 31.103

What else you got to worry about? Passed the silver test, right?

It passes ice, within a range for real gravity, and magnet tests. I’m just unsure if it’s a plating.

 

[BillA]

hmmm, got any other large new coins of known weight ?

edit: I think your bars are fine, just messing about the scale

 

[Deadaman]

hmmm, got any other large new coins of known weight ?

edit: I think your bars are fine, just messing about the scale

Only have 2 Morgan’s, dunno what they weigh and can’t check rn.

 

[BillA]

a Morgan is 26.73 gm new, apparently a vf ~26.20 gm
more info

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/weight-of-circulated-morgan.296323/

grade your best dollar, est. its weight - and weigh it; the difference ?

 

[Deadaman]

a Morgan is 26.73 gm new, apparently a vf ~26.20 gm
more info

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/weight-of-circulated-morgan.296323/

grade your best dollar, est. its weight - and weigh it; the difference ?

My 1921 Morgan (in good condition, can see most of the hair lines) weighed 26.7, while the 1900 in worse condition weighs 26.2.

 

[BillA]

so the scale would seem about accurate for our purposes

so why are your bars heavy ?

 

[ARC]

 

[ARC]

Ok since I should have just posted this in the beginning...

https://allengelhard.com/definitive-pages/engelhard-1oz-class-2/

 

[ARC]

Btw... I have found NO registered counterfeits in this series.

 

[BillA]

Btw... I have found NO registered counterfeits in this series.

ok, so why are the 4 bars the same amount overweight ?

I do not know the weight tolerance, but other sites report 0.03-4 gm underweight art bars - none overweight.

edit: ping

 

[ARC]

ok, so why are the 4 bars the same amount overweight ?

I do not know the weight tolerance, but other sites report 0.03-4 gm underweight art bars - none overweight.

edit: ping

Good question... but none listed... errr of that I have found... does not mean that they don't exist obviously... sheesh they fake laundry detergent for crying out loud.

Who knows... perhaps someone spayed them with a coating... I have seen it... as to prevent tarnish... although in this case it did not help. heh

 

[BillA]

Dm as galenrog said in #6, have them checked - let us know

edit: I would observe that you do not want this kind of discussion when you wish to sell, (sell now ?)