Recent Hardstone Finds

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I found these two last week. The first piece has a slightly concave and polished bottom side with notches at the ends. Because of the small garnet inclusions and familiar looking " worm trails " from polishing I think the material is greenstone. I was leaning towards atlatl weight or loafstone on the first piece but after a suggestion from Joshua Ream about a tool type called a hump back adze I see that as a possibity as well. Thanks Joshua, I found some good info and examples of the type. Including this piece http://www.theaaca.com/old members/membersbios/bio_bennett.htm scroll down a bit, which has a similar form as the second piece imo.

I'm not sure of the material on the second piece, the sides are squared and polished as well as the bottom. Any opinions or comments would be appreciated.
 

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Interesting finds 37,net sinker on the first piece?How big is the piece in the last 2 pics?thx for the look dude..oh by the way,I took the ole lady huntn this evening and she pulls a 3/4 grooved axe out.The bit was missing, probably woulda been 7 inches long,pretty beasty.seems like she finds a axe or celt every time I take her huntn.lol.take er easy :thumbsup:
 

creek astronaut said:
Interesting finds 37,net sinker on the first piece?How big is the piece in the last 2 pics?thx for the look dude..oh by the way,I took the ole lady huntn this evening and she pulls a 3/4 grooved axe out.The bit was missing, probably woulda been 7 inches long,pretty beasty.seems like she finds a axe or celt every time I take her huntn.lol.take er easy :thumbsup:

Thanks dude, I thought they were interesting and worked by ancient man so I figured I'd post them. That second piece is 4.5 " long and an inch thick towards middle. I really have alot to learn about hardstone types.

Congrats to your girl on the axe find, that's cool, you ought to bring her along more often...and follow closely behind, jk. HH
 

Its tough when you know its something, but cant identify it, but cant just throw it back down, knowing that some human actually used it for something, or maybe was in the process in making it into something and just abandoned it! What is it? I dont know, but its something!
 

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creek astronaut said:
Interesting finds 37,net sinker on the first piece?How big is the piece in the last 2 pics?thx for the look dude..oh by the way,I took the ole lady huntn this evening and she pulls a 3/4 grooved axe out.The bit was missing, probably woulda been 7 inches long,pretty beasty.seems like she finds a axe or celt every time I take her huntn.lol.take er easy :thumbsup:

Thanks dude, I thought they were interesting and worked by ancient man so I figured I'd post them. That second piece is 4.5 " long and an inch thick towards middle. I really have alot to learn about hardstone types.

Congrats to your girl on the axe find, that's cool, you ought to bring her along more often...and follow closely behind, jk. HH
lol.yea she has the eye,if I took her more often I wouldnt find much.Yea I have been studying the hardstone quite a bit lately, converse just came out with a new ohio stone types book probably the best I have seen ,definite recommended reading.unless it is a well defined piece it can be difficult to type.
 

Th3rty7!! i do not know much about hardatone artifacts, but that square sided piece, and course grained, it looks like and abrater to rough down the flatter areas such as a celt or hardstone ax bit. love the way you show so many differentsides of the artifacts!!!! Terry
 

after seeing the humpedback adze on the website you referenced, that may be just what you have! In the one pic of yours it almost looks like a preform for a gouge.
 

ohioaxeman said:
Its tough when you know its something, but cant identify it, but cant just throw it back down, knowing that some human actually used it for something, or maybe was in the process in making it into something and just abandoned it! What is it? I dont know, but its something!

Yeah that's about how I feel about many pieces I've picked up over the years. I've gotten pretty good at taking home worked pieces of hardstone, the i.d.ing is the tough part. I'm not much for C.O.A.'s but I have a few pieces that I'd be willing to pay for some advice because those guys have seen and handled more artifacts than probably anyone, and could most likely put a type on them. Jmo.

" after seeing the humpedback adze on the website you referenced, that may be just what you have! In the one pic of yours it almost looks like a preform for a gouge. "

I thought the form is really similar myself and the thought of preform has crossed my mind too. Here's one more pic looking down on the piece.

I appreciate your opinion, thanks for weighing in axeman.
 

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creek astronaut said:
Interesting finds 37,net sinker on the first piece?How big is the piece in the last 2 pics?thx for the look dude..oh by the way,I took the ole lady huntn this evening and she pulls a 3/4 grooved axe out.The bit was missing, probably woulda been 7 inches long,pretty beasty.seems like she finds a axe or celt every time I take her huntn.lol.take er easy :thumbsup:

Thanks dude, I thought they were interesting and worked by ancient man so I figured I'd post them. That second piece is 4.5 " long and an inch thick towards middle. I really have alot to learn about hardstone types.

Congrats to your girl on the axe find, that's cool, you ought to bring her along more often...and follow closely behind, jk. HH
lol.yea she has the eye,if I took her more often I wouldnt find much.Yea I have been studying the hardstone quite a bit lately, converse just came out with a new ohio stone types book probably the best I have seen ,definite recommended reading.unless it is a well defined piece it can be difficult to type.

Thanks for the book recommendation man, I'll look into that.
 

tmodel said:
Th3rty7!! i do not know much about hardatone artifacts, but that square sided piece, and course grained, it looks like and abrater to rough down the flatter areas such as a celt or hardstone ax bit. love the way you show so many differentsides of the artifacts!!!! Terry

Thanks, the abrader idea is a good possibility I think because of the coarse material like you pointed out, the top and sides have a coarse sandpaper like feel and the bottom is polished or ground smooth. I figured the more sides and angles I pictured the better it would be to I.d. these puzzlers. Appreciate your opinion Terry.
 

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