Red Ryder: You're Going To Put Your Eye Out

[Iron Buzz]

Too hot today to make plans for detecting, but got bored and hit the local "hunted out" park for a bit anyway, despite the heat. Got a Wheatie and a couple Jefferson nickels... enough to keep me interested for a while, but as I was working my way back to the car, got another copper penny signal that was deep enough to be worth spending the time on, so I dug it. Surprise!

 

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[ticndig]

That's a nice find and will look good in a display of oddities. I just can't hunt in 90* weather and dream of fall .
I still have my first BB gun made by daisy , may be a red rider. it is 55 years old and works like it was new.

 

[dirtlooter]

very cool find, a blast from the past

 

[gunsil]

Red Ryder was a cartoon cowboy in the Sunday papers when I was a kid, Daisy named their BB gun after him. I think there were Red Rider cap guns too, and I think the buckle here may have been from a belt and holster for one. Red had an Indian boy named Little Beaver as a sidekick.

 

[Squirrel322]

Very cool! What a great find!

 

[Hawks88]

Cool find. Congrats

 

[Iron Buzz]

Red Ryder was a cartoon cowboy in the Sunday papers when I was a kid, Daisy named their BB gun after him. I think there were Red Rider cap guns too, and I think the buckle here may have been from a belt and holster for one. Red had an Indian boy named Little Beaver as a sidekick.

Of course, we all remember the name from the movie, A Christmas Story:

 

[JeffInMass]

Very cool find- Congrats!

 

[Iron Buzz]

Very cool find- Congrats!

Thanks, Jeff. I was excited enough when I first realized that it was a cowboy design, but when I cleaned it more and saw the classic Red Ryder signature, it was over the top!

 

[Inspector]

Nice dig & nice condition, that will display nice with your collection, congrats

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Iron Buzz]

Nice dig & nice condition, that will display nice with your collection, congrats

Thanks. It is actually bent, though. I tried verrrrry carefully to straighten it, but stopped when I saw a glint of fresh copper at the stress point. I do know that heating and quenching copper will anneal (soften) it but I don't know what that might do to the patina. I'd like to straighten it a bit so that it lies flatter in a display frame. Does anybody know if the heating process will definitely ruin the patina or not (the bend is on the crossbar and I can limit the heat pretty much to that spot)?

 

[marion moore]

You maybe able to heat it in an oven, use a hard plastic hammer on it. Tap lightly, more taps but lets damage. Thanks for posting sure brings back some good old times when I was a kid. I think I was a kid once, it be so long ago. Thanks again. Very nice save.

 

[dirtdigginfool]

That's a nice find and will look good in a display of oddities. I just can't hunt in 90* weather and dream of fall .
I still have my first BB gun made by daisy , may be a red rider. it is 55 years old and works like it was new.

They sure don't make stuff like they used to...Ddf.

 

[Iron Buzz]

They sure don't make stuff like they used to...Ddf.

In the case of some things, cars for one, I'm damned glad.

 

[fistfulladirt]

When I was a teen back in the 70’s, a neighbor kid shot me in the back with his father’s vintage RedRyder. Stung like h**l. I grabbed that gun, smashed it to smithereens, it had the real wood stock. His father whipped the tar outa him.

 

[gunsil]

You maybe able to heat it in an oven, use a hard plastic hammer on it. Tap lightly, more taps but lets damage. Thanks for posting sure brings back some good old times when I was a kid. I think I was a kid once, it be so long ago. Thanks again. Very nice save.

One cannot heat brass or copper items in an oven to soften them for bending. Heating in an oven will only make the metal harder. To anneal (soften) cooper, brass, or silver the metal needs to be made red hot and then allowed to cool. One does NOT need to quench item in water or anything else. Annealing the buckle here will only ruin patina, it is better to leave it as found.

 

[Iron Buzz]

One cannot heat brass or copper items in an oven to soften them for bending. Heating in an oven will only make the metal harder. To anneal (soften) cooper, brass, or silver the metal needs to be made red hot and then allowed to cool. One does NOT need to quench item in water or anything else. Annealing the buckle here will only ruin patina, it is better to leave it as found.

Yeah, I knew about the heating red hot part. Wasn't going to try the oven. I thought it had to be cooled quickly, though, but that's something I learned in high school shop class when hammering a copper ash tray (do you suppose kids can still make ash trays in school today?)

 

[cudamark]

In the case of some things, cars for one, I'm damned glad.

Or metal detectors, TV's, phones, computers, medicine, etc.......

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Cool find!