✅ SOLVED Rosette - or not?

[Ryno]

Trying to ID, someone posted a photo of this attached to the piece it belongs on, but I can not find it. They said it was actually called a ?? and not a Rosette. Any help in identifying it and possible years would be appreciated. It still has the leather in it. The size is about 1 inch across.

 

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[ohiowhiteguy]

it is a harness strap accoutrement..
a few months ago i was hunting with redcardhack and he found one just like it..
very nice find indeed.
owg..

 

[Ryno]

Thank you, do you happen to know what time frame this may be from?

 

[ohiowhiteguy]

1890's up to ww1. from what i've seen..i learned this from thecannonballguy. he's one smart guy.
keep this open for a few.he might chime in.
owg..are you in boone county ky.?

 

[Ryno]

Yes,

 

[Ryno]

Would this be military or not?

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

It is an "accouterment emblem" from various types of US Army leather horsegear, dating from the very-late 1800s through the end of widespread use of horses in the 1930s. The size found by Ryno, about 1-inch in diameter, is from wagon-harness. (See photos below.) A larger size was used on a horsegear blinder-flaps.

Although your accouterment-emblem resembles a horsegear rosette, it is constructed differently, and has no function except as an "ornamental" identifying emblem. The thin attachment-tabs on its rim stick through a flat piece of leather, whereas a rosette had wires or a bar for attachment AROUND a leather strap.