Scallorn In kansas?

[Older The Better]

Found a point today that I thought would be easy to I?d in my overstreet book but I?m not finding that corner notch with the round base combo, I looked on projectilepoints.net and it says scallorn, I was under the impression that scallorn was now limited to Texas and they went by sorters bluff around here. Now I?m wondering what the truth is because it?s seems both sources are fairly reliable. As for the point just like many others I find it isn?t going to fit neatly into any types I can find all the sorters bluff seem to have a flatter base that is the same width as the barbs

 

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[Tdog]

Scallorn Projectile Point

Note they occur in SE Kansas.

 

[Older The Better]

That’s what I’m saying, not sure who to believe , to my knowledge this is the newest edition.. #15

 

[Fat]

..... the Overstreet book is more of a Christmas wish catalog than a reference source. IMO.

 

[justonemore]

..... the Overstreet book is more of a Christmas wish catalog than a reference source. IMO.

You talking about the 15th edition that Matt Rowe played a major part in the identification and editing?

 

[Fat]

...I haven’t seen the 15th edition. I have a few different copy’s of prior editions. A few years ago several of the “big name editors”, for me Jeb Taylor, publicly denounced because of all the errors.
I know very little about Matt Rowe. He does seem like a decent person.
All the pics are fun to look at but the book has lost all creditability, before he showed up, to use as a trusted reference source.
To me, it’s like finding fake and rechips in someone’s personal finds collection, that are not identified as just that. It casts the shadow of doubt on the whole collection...

 

[billb]

Older The Better Congratulations on your beautiful recovery we used to take the train from NY to Ellsworth Kansas many years ago..I remember seeing the combines and the fields that stretched as far as the eye could see

 

[joshuaream]

Scallorns were identified at the Big Eddy site in Southwest Missouri, so parts of Kansas seem pretty reasonable from a distance point of view.

Can you post a better picture of the point?

 

[Tdog]

With all the damage at the base, I'm not sure one can say with certainty that it had a round base. Both types you mention occur in the same timeframe; i.e. Late Woodland into Mississippian.

 

[uniface]

To whatever extent that anyone cares, I'd co-sign any identification or statement Matt Rowe made, sight unseen.

 

[Older The Better]

Yeah from the one side it certainly looks rounded but on the opposite I can see where it may have broken




I agree sorters bluff and scallorn are probably contemporaries, likely related. I’m not sure why some have decided to limit scallorn to Texas but I’m guess they have good reason for it to be published. Sounds like either overstreet is getting ahead of themselves on something not yet settled or projectilepoints hasn’t updated with the latest info on scallorn points. I just like to be as correct as I can be when labeling things In my collection, I try not to spread misinformation.

 

[Older The Better]

Scallorns were identified at the Big Eddy site in Southwest Missouri, so parts of Kansas seem pretty reasonable from a distance point of view.

Can you post a better picture of the point?

I had a summer geoarch class that I believe visited the big eddy site, we were walking the banks and I was looking around and pulled out a beautiful black point with many notches, I got excited and showed what I found to the park ranger or who ever was officially hosting us. He took it and said it was a good one to go with the archaeological collection… never saw it again, sometimes I wish I’d said nothing and put that thing in my pocket, knowing what I know now it was a high end point. And to clarify we were on the river somewhere around the big eddy site I wasn’t plucking points from the site itself.