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Killer Scrapers and sweet material.

arrow719, are your Scrapers uniface or biface? We find both types in my area. Most of the ones we find are uniface with the chipping only on one side, but we have a Ft Ancient site that produces what is locally known as Turtleback Scrapers and they are chipped on both faces and look like Thumbscapers made from a broken tip of a point.

Here's a couple of pics of Turtlebacks. The top side is showing in the tray and the bottoms are showing on the ones in my hand and you see they are flaked on both sides.
 

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Floyd, I'm interested in the site those scrapers came off of. Is it a multi-cultural site or was it single habitation? I ask because I have some end scrapers that are strikingly similar. Not your regular end-scrapers, but ones with fine oblique flaking, etc. Most people look at them and assume they are paleo, from the flaking. It floors them when I let them know that they came from a very, very late prehistoric site.
 

You guys sure have some nice Scrapers, Arrow that material is exquisit.
I have quite a few Scrapers but mainly white quartz, which doesn't really show flaking.
Here is a Turtleback-quartzite.
 

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DorkFish said:
Killer Scrapers and sweet material.

arrow719, are your Scrapers uniface or biface? We find both types in my area. Most of the ones we find are uniface with the chipping only on one side, but we have a Ft Ancient site that produces what is locally known as Turtleback Scrapers and they are chipped on both faces and look like Thumbscapers made from a broken tip of a point.

Here's a couple of pics of Turtlebacks. The top side is showing in the tray and the bottoms are showing on the ones in my hand and you see they are flaked on both sides.

We get both biface and uniface too. The ones I have pictured are all uniface. Out here you are more likely to find scrapers on the early sites but they do occur on sites of all time periods. Nice hoard of scrapers you have there.
 

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Floyd, I'm interested in the site those scrapers came off of. Is it a multi-cultural site or was it single habitation? I ask because I have some end scrapers that are strikingly similar. Not your regular end-scrapers, but ones with fine oblique flaking, etc. Most people look at them and assume they are paleo, from the flaking. It floors them when I let them know that they came from a very, very late prehistoric site.

Matt, the scrapers I pictured are very unusual for out here. We find end scrapers on occasion but this is the only place I've seen in the Great Basin that produced so many of them. The pictured ones are the nicer ones, we found quite a few more of them there too. All of these were unifaced which is also unusual because you don't see a lot made that way out here. The one with the oblique flaking is the nicest made scraper I've ever found. The points on this site were few and far between. I'm pretty sure most of the points had already been picked up. I guess they weren't interested in the scrapers though and left them. I only found two broke points in the area, a broke Elko and a broke Humboldt. The Elko is probably middle to late archaic and the Humboldt is probably middle archaic, so middle archaic would be my guess assuming the scrapers were associated with the points. There's also paleo stuff found nearby so there's the possibility they could be paleo, having been there way longer than the Elko and Humboldt. They aren't build like the paleo end scrapers with the graver on the end. My gut feeling is that they are middle to late archaic. I'll have to get a pic of the rest of the scrapers from that spot. My camera is out of town for of few days though so it will be next week sometime. I'd like to see yours sometime.
 

Molly said:
You guys sure have some nice Scrapers, Arrow that material is exquisit.
I have quite a few Scrapers but mainly white quartz, which doesn't really show flaking.
Here is a Turtleback-quartzite.

That's a nice one Molly, I like that material.
 

Those scrapers are prettier than my points!
 

I have ziplock baggies full of scrapers, both uni and bi-faced. Whats sad is that I have discarded probably more than I have saved. In my earlier days I thought "if it's not a point then there is no sense in keeping it". If only I had the sense then that I have now :(
 

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