searching for some coinvalues

[henk114]

Hello all,
I found the last few years some very nice coins.I don't know if I can trust the coindealers because one says 500 for the Escudo and another says 1000..so there is so much difference between the values and that's why I ask it also here hopefully someone has the knowledge to tell the good price
I wish that I knew the value of these coins so I hope that someone can help me !
These coins are : 2 Escudo 1596 minted Sevilla
: 4 reaal minted Mexico
: nobel King Henry VI (1422-1461) minted London

Thanks a lot for the help,
kind regards,
Henk

 

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[Mackaydon]

Regarding coin three: My internal 'red flag' went up when I saw that coin. I get suspect when the "P" of PLV overlaps the beaded cirlce; I believe its suppose to be within the beaded circle. Another cause for my personal alarm to go off is the number "8" used instead of the letter "S" in "SVL".
Don........

 

[henk114]

Regarding coin three: My internal 'red flag' went up when I saw that coin. I get suspect when the "P" of PLV overlaps the beaded cirlce; I believe its suppose to be within the beaded circle. Another cause for my personal alarm to go off is the number "8" used instead of the letter "S" in "SVL".
Don........

Hello Don,
thanks for your reply !
So you expect that it could be a fake coin? I really don't know,all I can say that I found the coin here in the Netherlands on a very old site where I even found a Hadrian coin dated 117 ac.I also found another(bad)bronze spanish coin and some other Roman coins.So I think it's not a fake coin,but that's my opinion.

Regards,
Henk

 

[Silver Searcher]

Sears list 6 examples of the HenryVI Noble...ranging from...£575 to £3000 depending on the Issue

SS

 

[henk114]

Sears list 6 examples of the HenryVI Noble...ranging from...£575 to £3000 depending on the Issue

SS

Hello SS
I had a thread about the coin on a Belgium forum.
Perhaps you would like to take a look on the link,there are some marks signed on the coin and hopefully you get the needed info you asked for.I hope to hear from you again!!
Regards,
Henk
this is the link where you can see in which state the coin was when I found it :-))
http://www.detectorvrienden-vlaanderen.be/nforum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12237

 

[Mackaydon]

Assuming coin #3 is real, it might be the one noted by Nesmith as "110" and by Grove as #85--who describes the coin like this:
"Obverse, within a dotten circle is a crowned coat of arms of Spain. A pomegranate is in the diamond-shaped space at the bottom of the shield. To the left of the shield is a mintmark (small 'o' over (large) 'M'; and to the right is the assayer's letter, 'O'. (His name is unknown.)"
Obverse legend: CAROLVS ET IOHANAREGS.
Reverse legend: HISPANIARVM ET INDIARVM

if so, the coin would be from the reign of Carlos and Joana , Second Series.
1542-1555
I'm still scratching my head about that '8' instead of an 's' in SVL.
Don....

 

[henk114]

Oei oei Don,
so you mean the S like this coin has:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carlos_Johanna_Silver_Coin.jpg

I will look for a same example as my coin,or could it be a very rare one perhaps?

regards,
Henk

 

[Mackaydon]

The "Wiki" 's' is the standard 's'. Yours looks like a definitive '8', not an 's'.
To me, the '8' makes it either an error coin, or a different variety, or a fake--though I'm not an expert to make that call--and hope it turns out the best for you.
Don...

 

[Silver Searcher]

Sears list 6 examples of the HenryVI Noble...ranging from...£575 to £3000 depending on the Issue

SS

Hello SS
I had a thread about the coin on a Belgium forum.
Perhaps you would like to take a look on the link,there are some marks signed on the coin and hopefully you get the needed info you asked for.I hope to hear from you again!!
Regards,
Henk
this is the link where you can see in which state the coin was when I found it :-))
http://www.detectorvrienden-vlaanderen.be/nforum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12237

Having a look, will come back to you shortly

SS

 

[henk114]

Hello SS,
thanks a lot, I appreciate that!

Henk

 

[henk114]

The "Wiki" 's' is the standard 's'. Yours looks like a definitive '8', not an 's'.
To me, the '8' makes it either an error coin, or a different variety, or a fake--though I'm not an expert to make that call--and hope it turns out the best for you.
Don...

Hello Don,
I got a mail today that it's a error coin and the value is just about "only" 100€...........I guess that it is a little bit more

Henk

 

[Mackaydon]

Henk:
That's a new one for me.
Congrats on your find.
Don.....

 

[henk114]

Hello Don,
the answer came from this site:
http://www.mpo.nl/index.html

They have a lot of knowledge but for that price I keep the Reaal,wouldn't you?


Henk

 

[Silver Searcher]

Hello SS,
thanks a lot, I appreciate that!

Henk

Your coin is a HenryV1 Noble, Annulet issue,London..... Annulet By sword arm, and in one spandrel on rev,; 1422-c,1430

2008..... Spink Book Price.

F...£575
VF.£1400...although you might be able to get a little more.

SS

 

[Mackaydon]

Yes, I'd keep the cob coin and send a pic for ID-ing to Daniel Sedwick, a most reputable dealer in this type of material.
You can contact him here:
http://www.sedwickcoins.com/contact.htm
Don.......

 

[henk114]

Hello SS,
thanks a lot, I appreciate that!

Henk

Your coin is a HenryV1 Noble, Annulet issue,London..... Annulet By sword arm, and in one spandrel on rev,; 1422-c,1430

2008..... Spink Book Price.

F...£575
VF.£1400...although you might be able to get a little more.

SS

thanks for the great determintion SS.It's also what they said in the Belgium forum,so now my searching can stop !
Regards,
Henk

 

[henk114]

Yes, I'd keep the cob coin and send a pic for ID-ing to Daniel Sedwick, a most reputable dealer in this type of material.
You can contact him here:
http://www.sedwickcoins.com/contact.htm
Don.......

I had send the picture to Dan and this came in last night:
"I think I have seen that before, not really an 8 so much as an S with extra ligature. It looks genuine to me, but I would need to see it in person to know for sure. Assuming it is genuine, then a value of about $250 is more or less correct for numismatic retail."

Dan Sedwick

I's a better determination than the Dutch one :-))
thanks a lot for the help Don!!
Regards,
Henk