Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

[GEOFF]

Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Saw a whole bunch of these YSK silver dollars in a pile along with other "silver coins",(more like medallions)in a tiny shop right inside a supermarket entrance in my area, the guy sells $5 a piece:

http://home.netvigator.com/~ykleungn/yuansk2.htm

They look like the 40% Halves I have been CRHing, with the yellowish white compared to others silver rounds in the pile but the problem is Chinese coins are infested with fakes as I know it.

Does anyone have any experience on the YSK aka Fatman Silver Dollar Coins?

Should I try two piece with my weak CRHing eyes?

 

[jrf30]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Before you buy I say try to sound test. Drop the coins ot see if they have a silver ring to them.

I think they are probably fakes, but if they ring true then buy some. But do the sound test, as that will tell you a lo tmore than the color of the coins or looking at them.

Good luck.

 

[Generic_Lad]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Every Chinese/Japanese silver coin I've come across in flea markets and the like have been very poor fakes. For one, the die rotation has been off. Secondly, the details, especially around the edges are mushy they also don't ring true. I actually picked up one fake (a Japanese 1 yen) from a flea market knowing full well its a fake simply because its a really, really, bad fake. Die rotation is messed up, details aren't there, the edge looks worn down (presumably because they had to file the casting seam) and most likely the coin is completely wrong with the details. The problem with most Asian coins is that badly made fakes can fool us because we don't read the language. While its easy to tell that an 1878 Peace Dollar is a fake based on the date, or that an 1804 dollar is obviously a reproduction, the same things can be done with Asian coins and unless you read the language you just see a dragon and some funny characters. Simple comparison isn't enough though because often the date is expressed in Chinese/Japanese rather than Arabic numerals and so you might have a 1930 coin to compare it to but if you are looking at a 1929, you will dismiss it as fake when it isn't.

To be honest, color isn't the greatest to judge it on. In the flea market, my piece looked just as genuine as the Peace dollar next to it (which was authentic) based on color. The coin wasn't an unnatural blast white but had (artificial) toning on it.

If I were you, I might pick up a piece or two, fakes are kinda fun to have, just realize you are buying a fake. There was a whole lot of difference in my attitude when I thought I was buying a genuine trade dollar and it ended up being fake, and this Japanese coin I knew was fake, despite there being little difference in the amount I paid for each of them.

 

[GEOFF]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Thank you guys, I'll go try it with the sound test and ask the seller if they are fakes...

@.89% over 26.6g thats 23.674g of AG. almost equivalent of a Peace/Morgan dollar.... it would be GREAT if its true, but like the old saying, if its too good to be true, then it probably is.

 

[BuffaloBoy]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Thank you guys, I'll go try it with the sound test and ask the seller if they are fakes...

@.89% over 26.6g thats 23.674g of AG. almost equivalent of a Peace/Morgan dollar.... it would be GREAT if its true, but like the old saying, if its too good to be true, then it probably is.

bring a reference coin.

Do not worry about being intimidating, that's just the nature of most of us CRH'ers. Show the owner who's really boss. The customer is always right

Good luck, and let us know how you make out!
BuffaloBoy

 

[maine_Jim]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Chinese fakes often will fail the magnet test. If they stick they are fake. Other fakes can be identified by weight and visual cast coin lines. I purchased some Fat Man fakes in a collection lot and they all stuck to a magnet. Wasn't a big deal as the junk silver in the collection was well worth what I paid plus a stack of large cents and half cents. The fakes all had the same greyish tone to them. They looked cool but if I bought them at $5 a piece I would have been a bit angry

Maine_Jim

 

[GEOFF]

Re: Should I buy some possible "silver" YSK One Dollar Coins

Chinese fakes often will fail the magnet test. If they stick they are fake. Other fakes can be identified by weight and visual cast coin lines. I purchased some Fat Man fakes in a collection lot and they all stuck to a magnet. Wasn't a big deal as the junk silver in the collection was well worth what I paid plus a stack of large cents and half cents. The fakes all had the same greyish tone to them. They looked cool but if I bought them at $5 a piece I would have been a bit angry

Maine_Jim

Jim, do you know if the Fatman coins are properly die rotation aligned?