Silver spoon ID

[HuntinDog]

Hi All,
I posted this in the Deus forum, but I think maybe I should have put it here for more of the question and answers people to see.
I found this a few years ago while detecting (with my new to me Deus) along a fence line of an old Victorian house in Vallejo.
I've always wanted to know a little more about it and it's hallmarks.
I posted the marks both ways so you wouldn't have to flip the image.
It also has hand peened into the handle Casper Stobe 1804.
If this is a true date than it is one old spoon!!
Thanks for any help you can give me with this one.

 

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[jewelerguy]

certainly the right style for a circa 1800 silver spoon. you've got a winner with that one. I did some looking of early American silversmith marks and couldn't find a match, but hopefully someone can give you an ID

 

[bigfoot1]

that is a beauty.agreed the style looks legit.casper was prolly upset to lose that one !!!

 

[bill from lachine]

HD,

Just a guess but perhaps the etched name was the owner and not a maker's mark.

If you have access to old records from that area see if his name shows up from that era.

Regards + HH

Bill

 

[HuntinDog]

Thank you for your in put.
I'm sure that it's from the early 1800's, but my thinking is that it may possibly be from the 1700's.
The peened name I'm sure was the owner and he was upset very when his kid lost it digging in the back yard.
I've tried looking in the census for that area and time frame, but haven't found any reference to Casper Stobe.
Hopefully some knows the date frame of the hall marks.

The search goes on...
Thank

 

[OWK]

Your spoon is Continental European. Most likely Scandinavian. Probably Swedish or Norwegian. Possibly German, but the drop suggests not. Also, if it were German, it would have a "loth" mark... (a numeric indication of purity)

Made sometime around 1800 to 1820.

The engraving style is called "prick engraving" (done with a series of successive pin pricks).

Prick engraving never shows up on American or English silver.. only continental European.

I'll check my archives later, and see if I can find a maker.

 

[OWK]

I mentioned the word "drop".

The "drop" of a spoon, is the feature on the back of the bowl, where the handle joins.

The shape of the drop is very oversized and wide on European spoons, relative to American coin silver.

If it were American, the drop would be half that size, or less.

 

[HuntinDog]

OWK,
Thank you for the information.
Great stuff
Your knowledge is unsurpassed.
Thanks so much

 

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