Solved - Blasting Cap

[turtlefoot13]

Hi All,

I have a friend who sent me a large box of spent shotgun brass and in it was a handfull of spent bullet casings. These casings included .56-56 Spencer, Frankford Arsenal, Twin Cities Arsenal, WRA Co. .34-40, etc. This primer was also included.

At first, with a casual glance, I thought it was a spent .22 case. I looked at it closer and realized it was a primer. You can see that it has been fired. It is 1.017 inches long and .236 inches in diameter.

Can anyone tell me what type of shell uses a primer that is so long? Any help or tips are appreciated.

Doug

 

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[taz42o]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in?

It looks like a pinfire cartrige with pin missing.
Is that a small hole filled with corrosion, near the base in first pic?

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in?

It looks like a pinfire cartrige with pin missing.
Is that a small hole filled with corrosion, near the base in first pic?

That's not a hole. It is solid all the way around. It may not be real clear in the last pic, but you are looking at an indention where a firing pin has hit the end. With all of the military rounds that were found, I was wondering if this came out of a larger military round. It was also found in a coastal state. Is there a chance that it might be a primer out of a punt gun shell?

Doug

 

[kuger]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in?

You sure thats not a blasting cap Doug?

 

[timekiller]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in?

I think you'll find if you take a paper clip or like wise the indent is the primer.So it's a shell caseing.Here is one I had that was just like yours other than mines flat.But I took a piece of wire and the hole for the primer is there.Now what kind of shell caseing. Never gave mine much thought but it is weird seems how the rim is not there for chambering.Also as east coast as you can get with out falling in the ocean
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in?

Here are a couple of more pics. I cleaned the end that looks like it has a firing pin mark on it and there is no hole. It is completely solid. With the exception of the length, it looks like a primer from a 12 gauge shotgun shell.

Kuger - It might be a blasting cap. I have never seen one in person before. Is this how they might have looked 80-100 years ago?

It was found on the east coast, near a coastal town. That is really all I know. Thanks for all of the help so far. I really appreciate it.

Doug

 

[kuger]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in? Two new pics

Pretty sure thats what it is Doug

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: What type of shell was this primer used in? Two new pics

Pretty sure thats what it is Doug

I will go ahead and mark this as solved then. Thanks Kuger and have a great Holiday Weekend!

Doug

 

[timekiller]

I'm still not sure what you have there turtlefoot13,I don't know much about blasting caps.But if it's a electric match cap then in was not used here in the U.S. till around 1950.
Electric match caps were developed in the early 1900s in Germany, and spread to the US in the 1950s when ICI International purchased Atlas Powder Co. These match caps have become the predominant world standard cap type.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasting_cap


But I did want to give you a link seems how you like shells and casings.

http://cartridgecollectors.org/glossary.htm

In my search I think I've discovered what I have and now has become a cool item itself to me.
It's a THUER'S CARTRIDGE. You'll see it in the link here and above.
http://www.1960nma.org/Conversions/...of the Centaure Thuer Conversion-11.02.10.htm

THUER'S CARTRIDGE - An early type of centerfire cartridge designed for use in Thuer Conversions of the Colt percussion revolvers. They taper from the mouth to a smaller base and were front-loaded into the cylinders. They are found in .3 1, .3 6 and .44 caliber and an extremely rare version is known in inside-primed (Benetlike) .44 caliber.


Take Care,
Pete

 

[turtlefoot13]

Hey Pete,

Thanks for the great link. I have never heard of anything like that. I still have so much to learn about shells and casings...and yes I love them. I would rather find a headstamp that I don't have then a Merc!

Doug

 

[kuger]

Hey Pete,

Thanks for the great link. I have never heard of anything like that. I still have so much to learn about shells and casings...and yes I love them. I would rather find a headstamp that I don't have then a Merc!

Doug

Doug,I am well on my way to filling another box for ya.I picked up an old hunting club ground that is loaded!!I found one yesterday That I dont recall seeing,Its a REDHEAD OVAL CLUB,dont recall seeing that one before??

 

[turtlefoot13]

Doug,I am well on my way to filling another box for ya.I picked up an old hunting club ground that is loaded!!I found one yesterday That I dont recall seeing,Its a REDHEAD OVAL CLUB,dont recall seeing that one before??

That's got to be an early Montgomery Ward's headstamp. I have never seen one and I cannot find one like it on a quick Google search though. I found a REDHEAD D.N. OVAL but not the OVAL CLUB. There are some Ward's headstamps that are quite scarce. I appreciate you keeping them for me.

Doug