Soybean field finds, old copper coins, military button, and others

[treblehunter]

Last few days have been warm so I managed to come out of hibernation for a few short hunts. Today I found an old musket ball, an old copper coin which was completely toasted out and some old unidentified relics. The field I was at today I did with oldjerseygirl (Becky) she found a very cool Military button and a very similar roached out old copper coin

Here is a couple links to similar buttons
Button backmarks, Scovill Manufacturing Company, Waterbury, Connecticut.
Identifying US Military Uniform Button Backmarks - Age, Type, Design, and Construction
I tried to clean up the coins, but had no success getting anything identifiable from either of them. Shame, allot of history in that neck of the woods.

I also found some other relics the last couple days in some other soybean fields, in the pix I put the musket ball in there too.


I hope the weather holds out (no snow) mild temperatures would be nice, been waiting for the thaw to hit that new spot with Vino (another old church in Philadelphia). When its cold out it's too easy for me to get comfortable in front of the television this time of year! HH everyone and Merry Christmas, whoops I meant Happy holidays!

 

[ATpro5]

That Great Seal Button Has Nice Color! Its From The Teens Because It Doesnt Have The Raised Rim Going Around The Button. Nice Finds!

 

[romeo-1]

Nice eclectic mix of targets!

 

[treblehunter]

I'm glad she found it, it's always hard going out detecting and not finding stuff. Might not be a gold coin, but very interesting to find something from the early 1800's. I looked on e-bay when I was searching yesterday about that button, here is that link.
Original Scovill MF'G Co Waterbury Military Army Eagle Jacket Buttons | eBay

 

[park pirate]

Nice...

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

cool to get out and some nice finds! bummer on the toasted coppers :O(

 

[treblehunter]

My last two coppers have been totaled, must be saving up my luck for something big. I never did make it out today, could not catch a break between the rain drops, still time for a good ending hunt for 2013. I have my fingers crossed.

 

[Boilermaker27]

that is a great seal button from 1902 as for the other finds, the object with the square hole appears to be the end off a civil war appendage, or let's just say gun tool. I have found several at civil war sites and this looks the same.

 

[Gunrunner61]

Don't be scared to say it.....MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR............This is still America
and we do have the first amendment for right now......................HH

 

[carcusrex]

Love that hook thing, I would clean the dirt off of it and keep that great patina and hang it on the wall for a coat hanger or maybe a shadow box with your cool finds with an extra long wall wire hanger so it show hanging below it.

 

[treblehunter]

Don't be scared to say it.....MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR............This is still America
and we do have the first amendment for right now......................HH

Merry Christmas Gunrunner, and you are soooooooo right. Happy New Year. (I love your avatar)
I hope we are able to hang on to the second also!

 

[treblehunter]

Love that hook thing, I would clean the dirt off of it and keep that great patina and hang it on the wall for a coat hanger or maybe a shadow box with your cool finds with an extra long wall wire hanger so it show hanging below it.

My son just picked up that thing and said, "wow, what is this thing dad?" Maybe a window opener
Thanks carcusrex.

 

[Gunrunner61]

I'm glad she found it, it's always hard going out detecting and not finding stuff. Might not be a gold coin, but very interesting to find something from the early 1800's. I looked on e-bay when I was searching yesterday about that button, here is that link.
Original Scovill MF'G Co Waterbury Military Army Eagle Jacket Buttons | eBay

treblehunter,
I don't think that the link you found is the one your wanting,
If you'll look at the wording yours says { *SCOVILL MFG CO* WATERBURY CONN }
thats not what the one you posted says { SCOVILL MF'G CO. WATERBURY
You can tell that they are different. jmho

 

[Gunrunner61]

Merry Christmas Gunrunner, and you are soooooooo right. Happy New Year. (I love your avatar)
I hope we are able to hang on to the second also!

th,
Thank you so much, She is the grand daughter of my friend/neighbor And Has been in our family since the day she was born.
she brings uncle Greg and aunt Rachel leaves, bugs or anything else that a child that age can think of to give mawmaw, and pawpaw
But we would not have it any other way. Her Grand parents are raising her.....She's our little Angel

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The backmark-dating info at inkspotantiques.com contains several serious errors. The "rimless" Great Seal US Army button was manufactured between 1902 and 1910.

The large brass ring with a post is a wagon/buggy/carriage horseharness reins-guide.

The brass "hook" thingy with two screw-holes is probably a picture-frame hanger.

The disc with a square hole does look a lot like the broken-off "nipple wrench" end of a civil war era Springfield Rifle's guntool... but those are made of iron. If your disc is not iron, it is not from a Springfield guntool.

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[treblehunter]

The backmark-dating info at inkspotantiques.com contains several serious errors. The "rimless" Great Seal US Army button was manufactured between 1902 and 1910.

The large brass ring with a post is a wagon/buggy/carriage horseharness reins-guide.

The brass "hook" thingy with two screw-holes is probably a picture-frame hanger.

The disc with a square hole does look a lot like the broken-off "nipple wrench" end of a civil war era Springfield Rifle's guntool... but those are made of iron. If your disc is not iron, it is not from a Springfield guntool.

Sorry, I did not mean to have "serious errors" I'm just a little lacking in the research Dept.
The "guntool", my first guess in the field was a piece from a musket. It is iron.
The 1870's "historicmaps.com" shows the site having a school house on it. Just down the road a little ways(quarter mile) is a 1700's grave yard for solders from a nearby battle.

treblehunter,
I don't think that the link you found is the one your wanting,
If you'll look at the wording yours says { *SCOVILL MFG CO* WATERBURY CONN }
thats not what the one you posted says { SCOVILL MF'G CO. WATERBURY
You can tell that they are different. jmho

Yeah I agree, it was all I could find, I could not find anything with "CONN" I still have not been able to research the buttons very well. It's still a nice find for her.

 

[WHADIFIND]

Nice finds, all! If you can't get anything at all off the coins, you might try the materials ploy. Size, weight, metal, etc. I've gotten pretty close on a couple of my nondescript discs of metal.

Thanks for sharing!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Treblehunter wrote:
> Sorry, I did not mean to have "serious errors" I'm just a little lacking in the [button] research Dept.

Treblehunter, just some friendly advice... if you want to learn about time-dating buttons by their backmark, I suggest you buy the very best book on that subject. It is comparatively inexpensive ($25 to $29) and it's a "must-have" for button diggers and collectors. It is "American Military Button Makers And Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by William F. McGuinn & Bruce S. Bazelon. I should mention, it also covers backmarks found on Civilian buttons.

Unlike the various websites you checked, that book's backmarks-list does have your button's "Scovill Mf'g. Co. Waterbury CONN" backmark. The book says it is post-1900. That matches up with the well-documented manufacting time of your "rimless" Great Seal US Army button. I hope the info is helpful.

 

[treblehunter]

Treblehunter wrote:
> Sorry, I did not mean to have "serious errors" I'm just a little lacking in the [button] research Dept.

Treblehunter, just some friendly advice... if you want to learn about time-dating buttons by their backmark, I suggest you buy the very best book on that subject. It is comparatively inexpensive ($25 to $29) and it's a "must-have" for button diggers and collectors. It is "American Military Button Makers And Dealers; Their Backmarks & Dates" by William F. McGuin & Bruce S. Bazelon. I should mention, it also covers backmarks found on Civilian buttons.

Unlike the various websites you checked, that book's backmarks-list does have your button's "Scovill Mf'g. Co. Waterbury CONN" backmark. The book says it is post-1900. That matches up with the well-documented manufacting time of your "rimless" Great Seal US Army button. I hope the info is helpful.

Thanks Cannonballguy, I appreciate your help. We went back to that field for about an hour yesterday and found nothing of great significance.