Suspended clip. Gun part?

[danec71]

Suspender clip. Gun part?

Just curious if this suspender clip is more male or female style. And also is this possibly a gun part. I found a gun part in this same area before. Thanks.

 

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[TheCannonballGuy]

Not a gun part... it is the brass crossguard from a civil war era British-made Sheffield fighting-knife. We know, because they've been found on civil war Blockade-Runner shipwrecks, such as the "Modern Greece."

 

[danec71]

Great! This mining cabin site dates to about late 1870s. People could have easily came or came back here not long after the war

 

[PanhandleDiggy]

Some of the civil war buoy knives I googled have a similar cross guard design. Cool find, are the two notches a makers mark?

 

[danec71]

Don’t know. Would be interesting to know

 

[ToddsPoint]

Notches are likely assembly marks so the hand fit parts don't get mixed up. These marks are common on many guns that had hand fit parts. Gary

 

[gunsil]

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Some of the civil war buoy knives I googled have a similar cross guard design. Cool find, are the two notches a makers mark?

That photo is of a fake bowie, modern made. Real bowie but modern fake if it is represented as CW, and the guard is nothing like the OP guard.

 

[gunsil]

Not a gun part... it is the brass crossguard from a civil war era British-made Sheffield fighting-knife. We know, because they've been found on civil war Blockade-Runner shipwrecks, such as the "Modern Greece."

Not necessarily CW, they were used on Sheffield bowie type knives right into the mid 1900s. Also, the earlier Sheffield guards were not brass they were nickel silver. (of course another name for nickel silver is white brass) You will never see an 1800s Sheffield bowie type knife with a cast yellow brass guard.



The top two are post 1890 Sheffield knives, the bottom one is circa 1850s-late 1860s. Any English made knife with the word "England" on it was made after the tariff act of 1890. Same goes for any knife or cutlery product (razors, scissors, etc) made outside the USA.

 

[PanhandleDiggy]

That photo is of a fake bowie, modern made. Real bowie but modern fake if it is represented as CW, and the guard is nothing like the OP guard.

Good to know! Yes they were listing it as a confederate knife.