Tenn. Trio Morgan Camp Hunt:Complete Pin Fire,Buttons,Lead,Apothecary Wt. ?

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Too pretty a day for the Tennessee Trio to not relic hunt even though there was mud. We went back to one of Gen. Morgan's CSA Camps. The soil drains well there. I believe we dug 29 relics in less than 4 hours. Dman recovered the dropped Gardner bullet, .50 cal. Smith Carbine bullet, and the Cuff Eagle button which caused a long discussion. The little cuff was the 1902-present Great Seal button, probably lost my WW2 Army maneuvers. However, Josh contended that it WAS an Eagle Button and Dman would be required to buy lunch until another member of the Trio digs an Eagle button. Dman and I disqualified his button by a democratic majority of 2 to 1-LOL. Josh, bring your wallet next week.
I dug what looks like a broken piece of side knife with 4 rivets (where the wooden handle attached) in the 2nd pic. I also dug the 2 pronged fork like Dman recovered at the Colonial site earlier this week. I was also lucky enough to dig the complete 11mm Pin Fire bullet. Josh wanted to trade a nice flat button that he dug today for it but I declined. He dug something that you rarely seen found intact today-a complete iron spur rowell. I have only dug one intact and that was from another Morgan Cavalry Camp.The little teardrop pistol bullet that Josh found may be just that or a Tranter Variant. More research needed.
He dug what we believe to be an apothecary weight shown in the last 2 pics. The "2 Drams" stamped on the brass square leads us to that conclusion. The "34 ??" on the other side was not familiar to us. If we are wrong, let us know. Otherwise, we consider that the Best Find today as Gen. Morgan had Medical personnel with him in that camp who obviously dispensed medicine that required accurate weighing. Happy Hunting from the Trio, Quindy.
 

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That weight is awesome! 8) A bunch of GREAT finds there!! ....And the collections grow~ :icon_pirat: :icon_thumright:
 
Hi All: just thought I'd put in another 2cents. I'm no expert on this, just another thought about the weight you found. My research on the 2 Dram shows it equal to 60 grain mass weight. This is also the grain weight used for .58 cal. rifles of the period. Maybe it was used to measure Black Powder.
cwhunter. wish i could find the camps down here in Mid Tn.
 
Nana40 said:
That weight is awesome! 8) A bunch of GREAT finds there!! ....And the collections grow~ :icon_pirat: :icon_thumright:
Thanks Nana. Josh is getting too much like Dman-he whined that day about needing to buy a bigger box for his recoveries from that CS camp. HH, Q.
traverdog said:
Really neat finds!!
We appreciate it Tdog. We have been fortunate. HH, Quindy.
cwhunter_1 said:
Hi All: just thought I'd put in another 2cents. I'm no expert on this, just another thought about the weight you found. My research on the 2 Dram shows it equal to 60 grain mass weight. This is also the grain weight used for .58 cal. rifles of the period. Maybe it was used to measure Black Powder.
cwhunter. wish i could find the camps down here in Mid Tn.
Thanks cwh. I agree that it was used to weigh something and this was an early CW CSA Cavalry Camp where Morgan's Raiders had a vast array of weapons brought from home and captured vs. pre packaged bullets and powder used by the Yankees. It would be logical that a medical scale could have been used to weigh powder. Thanks for your interest and talk to your county historian for some tips on CW sites to hunt. HH, Quindy.
 
The weight is cool but the pinfre is awesome! The 44 hazard is always a welcome in the pouch!
 

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