The History of the 1836 Farmhouse of J.A. McDonald Ive been hunting all summer

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The History of the 1836 Farmhouse of J.A. McDonald I've been hunting all summer

Good evening fellow detectorists.Finally sent off for some old platt maps of the area I have been hunting. I really want to hunt pre-1900 areas that are mostly gone. Got the maps back and have been studying them with arial photos and map quest. It's amazing how unchanged most of the roads are in rural Ohio. Most of them were named after old timers long gone and were just gravel or dirt . I have already found 3 existing homes and more are where I know them to be as I grew up here as a kid from the 50's (not to reveal my age). I know where there are several that I knew about or played in that are gone. Can't wait for harvest time. Anyway, The most recent home belonged to J.A.McDonald, a prominent man in this area as the size of his house and other land that he owned on the 1875 platt maps. He was obviously wealthy. The property sat on 51 acres and he had another 324 acres near by. Thats a lot of land in those days.The most recent people were the Botkins and the Ingrams, which my father knew. What a priveledge for me to be able to hunt here as well as find photos of the place from the 1800's. It really must have been a special place back then. As I peek into the windows most of the place seems to be untouched from the wooden floors to the lightinging (which obviously came later on) and the old door knobs. The front door still retains the original door bell (although it was replace with a newer door they installed the old door ringer).The house is still vaccant as the owners cannot sell it and the land for 350K. I personally would like to buy it but it's too old of a house. I don't know the condition of the structure in general although it appears to be good. But to heat this place in Ohio in the winter would be costly.Unfortunaely, the reminants of hurricane Ike ravaged central Ohio too. I cannot hunt there as several very old trees fell and there was damage to the roof as well.I have included the picture of the house from today and an artist sketch of the house in 1870. The house is unchanged except for the front porch is gone and the side room is gone. The railing on top of the roof is gone. This must have been an early design to signify size and wealth. All of the old barns and smaller structures are gone except for the corn crib. Unfortunately it was half blown over.I also posted some of my earlier finds of this year from the McDonald place. They are just the significant finds as I found too much to repost everything. The last 2 pictures are places that are still there and are about 3 miles from town. The Lazy Mans Rest has extensive history in the library for the underground railroad. My Grandmother knows the owner so I just have to catch them at home and ask. That is about 1 full acre of old buildings and barns. The home is brick. I don't know about the other one yet. Enjoy, Ron Smith Sorry about the pics being out of sequence ;D

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Detectingfreak said:
Very nice job! The button looks like its almost brand new! Very good job on the indian head cents and the key! :)

Thanks detectingfreak. I actually found 2 but can't find the pic on photobucket of the other one. It's a little smaller but pre-1900 for sure
 
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Derek752 said:
CJH AMAZING finds and research maps !!

I LOVE the finds, the key is killer nice but that '52 is dang near flawless ! She's Gorgeous !

Keep it going :thumbsup:

Derek

I know, not bragging by no means but she is a pretty one. I was shocked how easily she cleaned up too. I soaked her in a little olive oil, but got scolded by other members ;D
 
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great story and finds :thumbsup:
 
Re: The History of the 1836 Farmhouse of J.A. McDonald I've been hunting all summer

Super Job on the post and research. Awesome looking coins and site to hunt. Continued Success and Semper Fi.
 
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Very nice work cjh.I love the coins you found at that place.The 1/2 dime is a killer :tard: :thumbsup:
 
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topdog said:
Super Job on the post and research. Awesome looking coins and site to hunt. Continued Success and Semper Fi.

Thanks TopDog. Semper Fi as well :coffee2:
 
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finderkeeperjeff said:
Absolutly beautiful coinage. Way to go!!!!

Thanks Jeff and welcome to TNET. Hope the info I sent you will be helpfull. HH
 
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Excellent!
 
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Great post! Great finds! Thanks.
 
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WOW those are some great finds congrats :icon_pirat:
 
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awesome job jahead on your recon mission lol from a old army viet theam jar heads saved are ass lots of time in nam thatks for your serive bro :thumbsup:
 
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Great job and post. I have always loved history and the sense of connection that comes with discovering and touching various articles from days gone by. I recall working as an electrician years ago in an late 1800's era/built house. In the attic i found some newspapers that had been saved and placed there from WWII. One of the headlines spoke of a submarine having been spotted and sunk off the Florida coast. It was kind of funny but reading the headlines and articles lent such a sense of keen insight into how it must have been to have lived in that time and under those circumstances...

Mike
 
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crazyjarhead said:
Good evening fellow detectorists.Finally sent off for some old platt maps of the area I have been hunting. I really want to hunt pre-1900 areas that are mostly gone. Got the maps back and have been studying them with arial photos and map quest. It's amazing how unchanged most of the roads are in rural Ohio. Most of them were named after old timers long gone and were just gravel or dirt . I have already found 3 existing homes and more are where I know them to be as I grew up here as a kid from the 50's (not to reveal my age). I know where there are several that I knew about or played in that are gone. Can't wait for harvest time. Anyway, The most recent home belonged to J.A.McDonald, a prominent man in this area as the size of his house and other land that he owned on the 1875 platt maps. He was obviously wealthy. The property sat on 51 acres and he had another 324 acres near by. Thats a lot of land in those days.The most recent people were the Botkins and the Ingrams, which my father knew. What a priveledge for me to be able to hunt here as well as find photos of the place from the 1800's. It really must have been a special place back then. As I peek into the windows most of the place seems to be untouched from the wooden floors to the lightinging (which obviously came later on) and the old door knobs. The front door still retains the original door bell (although it was replace with a newer door they installed the old door ringer).The house is still vaccant as the owners cannot sell it and the land for 350K. I personally would like to buy it but it's too old of a house. I don't know the condition of the structure in general although it appears to be good. But to heat this place in Ohio in the winter would be costly.Unfortunaely, the reminants of hurricane Ike ravaged central Ohio too. I cannot hunt there as several very old trees fell and there was damage to the roof as well.I have included the picture of the house from today and an artist sketch of the house in 1870. The house is unchanged except for the front overhang is gone and the side room is gone. The railing on top of the roof is gone. This must have been an early design to signify size and wealth. All of the old barns and smaller structures are gone except for the corn crib. Unfortunately it was half blown over.I also posted some of my earlier finds of this year from the McDonald place. They are just the significant finds as I found too much to repost everything. The last 2 pictures are places that are still there and are about 3 miles from town. The Lazy Mans Rest has extensive history in the library for the underground railroad. My Grandmother knows the owner so I just have to catch them at home and ask. That is about 1 full acre of old buildings and barns. The home is brick. I don't know about the other one yet. Enjoy, Ron Smith Sorry about the pics being out of sequence ;D

Nice write up.... just one comment.... having had house ranging from brand new to 1740s.. buy it!! Get an inspection first.. and as log as the termites have not eaten it out.. buy it!!! My house now is 1790s with a 1830 addition and another I build 8 years ago.. man.. it is rock solid.. real oak 2x4s.. 3 layers of brick.. more then a foot of stone.. it will be here long after all these new houses are long gone.. heating is a bit tricky.. I double up on the insulation where I could.. and put in some highend storm windows.. but with the brick.. it works very well.. I went through a company that specilalizes in historic homes for the widows.. they were expensive but I think I got my money back in 3 years easy... that is one great looking house.. and if he can't sell.. now is the time to make a low offer!!! Maybe it's just me.. but I spent more time fixing crap in my new house.. popping nails and screws.. stuff breaking.. walls settling.. then I do here...

Besides... think how good a USMC flag would look flying on that house!! ;-)

MonkeyBoy
 
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MonkeyBoy said:
crazyjarhead said:
Good evening fellow detectorists.Finally sent off for some old platt maps of the area I have been hunting. I really want to hunt pre-1900 areas that are mostly gone. Got the maps back and have been studying them with arial photos and map quest. It's amazing how unchanged most of the roads are in rural Ohio. Most of them were named after old timers long gone and were just gravel or dirt . I have already found 3 existing homes and more are where I know them to be as I grew up here as a kid from the 50's (not to reveal my age). I know where there are several that I knew about or played in that are gone. Can't wait for harvest time. Anyway, The most recent home belonged to J.A.McDonald, a prominent man in this area as the size of his house and other land that he owned on the 1875 platt maps. He was obviously wealthy. The property sat on 51 acres and he had another 324 acres near by. Thats a lot of land in those days.The most recent people were the Botkins and the Ingrams, which my father knew. What a priveledge for me to be able to hunt here as well as find photos of the place from the 1800's. It really must have been a special place back then. As I peek into the windows most of the place seems to be untouched from the wooden floors to the lightinging (which obviously came later on) and the old door knobs. The front door still retains the original door bell (although it was replace with a newer door they installed the old door ringer).The house is still vaccant as the owners cannot sell it and the land for 350K. I personally would like to buy it but it's too old of a house. I don't know the condition of the structure in general although it appears to be good. But to heat this place in Ohio in the winter would be costly.Unfortunaely, the reminants of hurricane Ike ravaged central Ohio too. I cannot hunt there as several very old trees fell and there was damage to the roof as well.I have included the picture of the house from today and an artist sketch of the house in 1870. The house is unchanged except for the front overhang is gone and the side room is gone. The railing on top of the roof is gone. This must have been an early design to signify size and wealth. All of the old barns and smaller structures are gone except for the corn crib. Unfortunately it was half blown over.I also posted some of my earlier finds of this year from the McDonald place. They are just the significant finds as I found too much to repost everything. The last 2 pictures are places that are still there and are about 3 miles from town. The Lazy Mans Rest has extensive history in the library for the underground railroad. My Grandmother knows the owner so I just have to catch them at home and ask. That is about 1 full acre of old buildings and barns. The home is brick. I don't know about the other one yet. Enjoy, Ron Smith Sorry about the pics being out of sequence ;D

Nice write up.... just one comment.... having had house ranging from brand new to 1740s.. buy it!! Get an inspection first.. and as log as the termites have not eaten it out.. buy it!!! My house now is 1790s with a 1830 addition and another I build 8 years ago.. man.. it is rock solid.. real oak 2x4s.. 3 layers of brick.. more then a foot of stone.. it will be here long after all these new houses are long gone.. heating is a bit tricky.. I double up on the insulation where I could.. and put in some highend storm windows.. but with the brick.. it works very well.. I went through a company that specilalizes in historic homes for the widows.. they were expensive but I think I got my money back in 3 years easy... that is one great looking house.. and if he can't sell.. now is the time to make a low offer!!! Maybe it's just me.. but I spent more time fixing crap in my new house.. popping nails and screws.. stuff breaking.. walls settling.. then I do here...

Besides... think how good a USMC flag would look flying on that house!! ;-)

MonkeyBoy
Yes, it would but the only problem is that I have a new home now. And with this housing market continuing to spiral out of control I'll never be able to get out of this one. Thanks for your insight though. Besides, the wife is paranoid about living in a house that old. The lady told me they were going to break up the farmland and concentrate on the house itself. I think she said they were looking at 170's.
 
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Crazyjarhead,

What an amazing adventure you are on..>CONGRATS!!!! That is some research you did and finds you found.

I too, love to learn about the history. I was like that at every place I was stationed at. Wanted to learn the history of the station and surrounding community! It's so interesting and exciting.

I do alot of genealogy (over 35 years since I started) and love researching old newspapers.

I am not familiar with Ohio or it's county seats, but I decided to do a newspaper search on John A. McDonald and found this article. Now, whether it's the same J.A. McDonald as yours, only you can determine! Could be his grandfather or even great grandfather.

I would be happy to see what I can find in the papers for you and either email them to you, post on here or post on my webshots acct.

Here's one I found in the paper...(I'm just typing in the text). This small portion is from an article called COURAGE. It states Harry Harrison was a coward and I believe these are testiments to his courage from those who knew him.

Huron Reflector
Norwalk, Ohio
25 February 1840
10. John McDonald, of Ross Co., a boary-headed Pioneer, gives his knowledge of Harrison, during a preiod of forty-six years, in these words:
"In the early part of the year 1794, I joined Wayne's Army as a Ranger. Gen. Harrison was then on of Gen. Wayne's Aids. During the late war, I was attached to the Army from the commencement of its close, making forty-six years of acquaintance with Gen. Harrison. During that long period of time, I heard no person who knew him, call in question his PERSONAL BRAVERY, his patriotism, or his honesty of purpose."


Do you know if his wife was MARY? I found four entries for Civil War service listed for John A. McDonald of Ohio. One list a wife as Mary.

Found 5 John A. McDonald's on the 1880 census. These are the areas:
Saint Clair, Columbiana, Ohio (Son of Alexander and Susan)
Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio (Son of Jessie)
Columbus, Franklin, Ohio (Wife: Elizabeth)
Burton, Geauga, Ohio (Wife: Esther M.)
Le Roy, Osceola, Michigan (Wife: Fannie)

There are more John McDonald's listed...I just listed with the middle inital "A".

Lots of enteries for John A. McDonald and John McDonald for Ohio Land Records and U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 (this one has images).

Be happy to help you out with data. Just give a shout. Heading for work in a bit, be home after 5pm...

Again, Congrats on a wonderful adventure!!!
Annmarie
 
Re: The History of the 1836 Farmhouse of J.A. McDonald I've been hunting all summer

Awesome job CJH. Looks like the research has worked again. Awesome pictures, history, and finds. The soil is kind there.

What's with the string in the one picture? Mapping out sections to detect? How do you normally do that? Looks like you are working radially out from a center point (in a fan section)?

John
 
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Ron and Ann said:
Crazyjarhead,

What an amazing adventure you are on..>CONGRATS!!!! That is some research you did and finds you found.

I too, love to learn about the history. I was like that at every place I was stationed at. Wanted to learn the history of the station and surrounding community! It's so interesting and exciting.

I do alot of genealogy (over 35 years since I started) and love researching old newspapers.

I am not familiar with Ohio or it's county seats, but I decided to do a newspaper search on John A. McDonald and found this article. Now, whether it's the same J.A. McDonald as yours, only you can determine! Could be his grandfather or even great grandfather.

I would be happy to see what I can find in the papers for you and either email them to you, post on here or post on my webshots acct.

Here's one I found in the paper...(I'm just typing in the text). This small portion is from an article called COURAGE. It states Harry Harrison was a coward and I believe these are testiments to his courage from those who knew him.

Huron Reflector
Norwalk, Ohio
25 February 1840
10. John McDonald, of Ross Co., a boary-headed Pioneer, gives his knowledge of Harrison, during a preiod of forty-six years, in these words:
"In the early part of the year 1794, I joined Wayne's Army as a Ranger. Gen. Harrison was then on of Gen. Wayne's Aids. During the late war, I was attached to the Army from the commencement of its close, making forty-six years of acquaintance with Gen. Harrison. During that long period of time, I heard no person who knew him, call in question his PERSONAL BRAVERY, his patriotism, or his honesty of purpose."


Do you know if his wife was MARY? I found four entries for Civil War service listed for John A. McDonald of Ohio. One list a wife as Mary.

Found 5 John A. McDonald's on the 1880 census. These are the areas:
Saint Clair, Columbiana, Ohio (Son of Alexander and Susan)
Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio (Son of Jessie)
Columbus, Franklin, Ohio (Wife: Elizabeth)
Burton, Geauga, Ohio (Wife: Esther M.)
Le Roy, Osceola, Michigan (Wife: Fannie)

There are more John McDonald's listed...I just listed with the middle inital "A".

Lots of enteries for John A. McDonald and John McDonald for Ohio Land Records and U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 (this one has images).

Be happy to help you out with data. Just give a shout. Heading for work in a bit, be home after 5pm...

Again, Congrats on a wonderful adventure!!!
Annmarie

Thank you so much for the research. I went to the library and did some geneology research on my family but not him. I did find that civil war button in the front yard so maybe he was in the civil war. I don't know if he was married to Marry. I noticed on the old maps it just lists the mans name and not the wife. I guess tis was common in the old days.I'm sure I'd could go up to the local cemetary I find his grave. The library has all of the vital statistics for this county. I just have to find the time. I know the town was named Woodstock because many of the old timers came from Woodstock Vermont. Don't know where John A. came from.
 
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BomberJohn said:
Awesome job CJH. Looks like the research has worked again. Awesome pictures, history, and finds. The soil is kind there.

What's with the string in the one picture? Mapping out sections to detect? How do you normally do that? Looks like you are working radially out from a center point (in a fan section)?

John

Thanks BomberJ. I hunt in a box 100x10. I don't know what I did there. I think I was getting ready to move it over one end at a time. I had no help so I would go to one end and pull the pin and walk it over another 10 feet. I don't hunt that way. Thanks for the comments and being obserative.
 
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Great stuff, thanks for sharing your research of the history of you site.
 
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crazyjarhead said:
BomberJohn said:
Awesome job CJH. Looks like the research has worked again. Awesome pictures, history, and finds. The soil is kind there.

What's with the string in the one picture? Mapping out sections to detect? How do you normally do that? Looks like you are working radially out from a center point (in a fan section)?

John

Thanks BomberJ. I hunt in a box 100x10. I don't know what I did there. I think I was getting ready to move it over one end at a time. I had no help so I would go to one end and pull the pin and walk it over another 10 feet. I don't hunt that way. Thanks for the comments and being obserative.
Thought there was a new technique I hadn't heard about or something. LOL Thanks.
 

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