Things handed down to me from my grandparents...

[Pimp Lenin]

First, I was not sure if I should post this here. If this is not the correct area, I apologize and please move to the correct place.

I just wanted to post some items that I have that handed down to me by my grandparents after they passed away. I am curious about their value, but not interested in selling. Also, I don't really know a whole lot about them, so any information would be appreciated.

Item 1 - Brass candlestick holder

This was handed down through my grandmother's side of the family. Through her, I am related to Rutherford B. Hayes, who was the 19th President of the United States. He is my ggggg uncle. According to family history, this candlestick holder belonged to him. I do not know if this is 100% accurate as this was passed by word of mouth, and no written documentation exists. If someone could at least verify the period that these were popular, it may answer some questions. There are no markings on the item.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/CandlestickHolder1.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/CandlestickHolder2.jpg

Item 2 - German helmet

Another item passed down through my grandmother. She said one of her brothers got this at some point. I've been told that this is a reproduction helmet - that the helmet itself was probably surplus used by Norway, and that it had been repainted and new decals put on. I would like a second opinion.

The sides of the helmet
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/GermanSide1.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/GermanSide2.jpg
Number stamp "821" on the inside rim (back)
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/GermanNumberStamp.jpg
The leather inside the helmet. The lettering says "59M89"
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/GermanLeather.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/GermanLeatherTag.jpg

Item 3 - Prussian Dish

This is an item from my grandfather's side of the family. It is a dish that is from Prussia. The mark on the back consists of a laurel wreath with a star in the top center. On the left of the star is the letter R and on the left is the letter S. Underneath it says Prussia. No idea of age or value. I do know that it is old.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/PrussianPlate1.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/PrussianPlate2.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/PrussianPlate3.jpg

Item 4 - Haviland Dish Set

This is a partial Haviland dish set passed through my grandmother's family. My grandmother said that this is about half of the set; the other half apparently went to someone else in the family, but I have no idea who. The maker's mark says "Theodore Haviland - Limoges, France - Patent Applied For - Simmons Hardware Co. - St. Louis, MO." No idea of age or value.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/HavilandSet1.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/HavilandSet2.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/louisiana79/HavilandSet3.jpg

Thank you for having a look-see! :-)

 

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[jeff of pa]

WOW, I love that helmet.

Here are completed listings from EBAY.

you'll probably need to sign in, but these are the best
way to find out what something is worth.

http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&sacat=-1&ftrt=1&coaction=compare&fsop=1&sadis=200&from=R10&sargn=-1&sofocus=so&copagenum=1&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&saprclo=&fis=2&sbrftog=1&fgtp=&satitle=german+helmet&saprchi=&coentrypage=search&ftrv=1&guest=1

 

[Gypsy Heart]

If you are not selling these items, Then I would have them appraised and the put on your home owners property insurance.

 

[Pimp Lenin]

Well, I found out some stuff on items 3 and 4 from looking around on e-bay and the net.

For item 3, I could not find an identical pattern but it seems that most RS Prussia floral patterns are going for around the $50 mark and are late 19th century.

Item 4 comes close (though not exact) to the Rosalinde pattern of Haviland, and the maker's mark ws the style used around 1903. Various pieces are going for various prices.

I think it will be hard to nail down anything for item 1. Most 19th century brass candlestick holders on e-bay seem to be around the $15-$20 mark. Without proof this was owned by President Hayes other than a family story, I cannot value it more than that.

The German helmet is hard to determine because forgeries are common. Basically I just want to find out if this is the genuine thing or an early repro.

 

[Pimp Lenin]

I've searched several different websites about collecting German helmets, and it looks like the one I have is a M1935 model. Everything seems to lean towards it being an authentic item. If it is a reproduction it is a darn good one.

So really the only thing left is the candlestick holder, which I don't think much will be found on it.

 

[bogeymcq]

Those are truly truly delightful items that have been handed down to you! I love that you shared them here as well for truth be told I knew very little about these items till you posted them & I did a bit of poking about the internet. . so thank you for sharing

Now this is just me shooting off the hip here for I do not have any knowledgeable knowledge on the items:

At About:Antiques, R.S. Prussia I found this article

http://antiques.about.com/cs/ceramicsporcelain/a/aa062400.htm
reading down you will come to an area genuine pieces of R.S. Prussia that shows pictures of some pieces

Through the above link I came across this collectors home page. . maybe you could right them & ask their opinion:
http://antiques.about.com/gi/dynami...&tt=2&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http://www.rsprussia.com/


The flowers on your plate remind me of the wild white rose that grew around my parents house, which is listed as one (not sure thou, no pictures) of the patterns for R.S.Prussia. . a bowl with wild rose, gold border, 10 1/2 sold for $325.00 according to Kovels.com


Your candlestick. . from looking about it kinda sorta resembles a "push up candlestick". . found one similar but not quite the same here
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800s-Victorian...hZ002QQcategoryZ16106QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

Did you know that Rutherford B. Hayes was one of the few Presidents who kept a diary? And apparently it is on-line as well! Thou I suspect he didn't write about his candlesticks eh

Again truly gorgeous items!

Bogart