Thumb scraper and possible worked edge?

[RogueFlea]

Found these in my usual spot this past weekend. I'm still learning and would rather be safe than sorry. Does this look like a thumb scraper and maybe the beginning of a knife? The edge looks worked to me.
Thanks in advanced.

 

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[Tnmountains]

Were these in a creek? It does look like secondary work on the edge. Of course always hard to sayfrom a picture and not in the hand. Finding any little reduction flakes in the area?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Looks like from tumbling in a creek or stream.

 

[RogueFlea]

Were these in a creek? It does look like secondary work on the edge. Of course always hard to sayfrom a picture and not in the hand. Finding any little reduction flakes in the area?

Yes, they both were found in a creek. I wish my camera was capable of better pictures. Thanks for your input

 

[uniface]

It looks to me like the removals are all pretty much at the same angle. Which makes deliberate creation more likely than accidental. Factor in that they're shoulder-to-shoulder.

No brainer, IMHO.

 

[RogueFlea]

It looks to me like the removals are all pretty much at the same angle. Which makes deliberate creation more likely than accidental. Factor in that they're shoulder-to-shoulder.

No brainer, IMHO.

Thanks for your input!

 

[quito]

That sure doesn’t look like creek tumbling damage to
me. I agree with uniface.

 

[RogueFlea]

That sure doesn’t look like creek tumbling damage to
me. I agree with uniface.

Thank you!

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Looks like from tumbling in a creek or stream.

I think you are correct. It looks like creek tumbling and not actual man made flaking.

 

[H.P.]

Looks like scrapers tome

 

[uniface]

It looks to me like the removals are all pretty much at the same angle. Which makes deliberate creation more likely than accidental. Factor in that they're shoulder-to-shoulder.

And that they're all pretty much the same size. And along the same edge. That's a powerful lot of coincidences IMO.

 

[CodyPratt]

I agree with Uniface. The probability of the edge on the second one being created by random creek tumbling is astronomically small.

 

[tomclark]

Pics 4,6 and 7 for sure to me show purposeful work. 4 is a thumb scraper imhop. that stuff looks old like the stuff we pull from the paleo clay layer in FL

 

[quito]

It looks to me like the removals are all pretty much at the same angle. Which makes deliberate creation more likely than accidental. Factor in that they're shoulder-to-shoulder.

No brainer, IMHO.

another fact i noticed is there is no sign of flaking or creek damage on some edges. You’d think if it was incidental it would be on every edge.

 

[RogueFlea]

Pics 4,6 and 7 for sure to me show purposeful work. 4 is a thumb scraper imhop. that stuff looks old like the stuff we pull from the paleo clay layer in FL

I pulled the thumb scraper out of a muddy bank in the creek...probably 6 ft down. Looked old to me too!

 

[MAMucker]

I see edge work, not creek chatter.