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Re: unknown buttons

I think the first is upside down. Blazer buttons.
 

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little better pics
 

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:violent1: :protest:

How many times do we get this when some one posts a button....Blazer Button :BangHead: :BangHead: First looks like a livery button to me :P infact they both do to me, I have some that are very similar..Nice finds :icon_thumleft:

SS
 

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Well, one of them does look like a livery... the quality is good, with crisp detail.

The other, well, it looks like a thin stamped sheet metal button that has been pushed in/dented. Hard for me to call that anything but blazer. :dontknow:

Better pics of the backs would really help.
 

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Lucas said:
Well, one of them does look like a livery... the quality is good, with crisp detail.

The other, well, it looks like a thin stamped sheet metal button that has been pushed in/dented. Hard for me to call that anything but blazer. :dontknow:

Better pics of the backs would really help.
I'd give you the thin sheet metal one :wink: but there's to many buttons that are posted here, that simply get labeled common blazer button :protest:

SS
 

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Well it doesn't make it right, but it follows the pattern...

older = fewer people who had less stuff

newer = many more people who have tons of stuff

So, statistically, most button finds will be recent. So, if it looks like a modern button, it gets classed as modern.

The more info, the better the pics, the more people that look at it, the better the ID. A cooperative effort. ;D

Bottom line is the best ID possible. It's all about the artifacts. :hello2:
 

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Lucas said:
Well it doesn't make it right, but it follows the pattern...

older = fewer people who had less stuff

newer = many more people who have tons of stuff

So, statistically, most button finds will be recent. So, if it looks like a modern button, it gets classed as modern.

The more info, the better the pics, the more people that look at it, the better the ID. A cooperative effort. ;D

Bottom line is the best ID possible. It's all about the artifacts. :hello2:
Doesn't make much difference to me because I find lots of buttons, and regard them as a bit of a nuisance :-\ 28 in 20 minutes was my record before I left the field :-\ but I know the guys over there appreciate them a lot more, new people coming to the hobby would want the right ID for a button, especially from the Us, simply labeling them Blazer Buttons is just not good enough. I know you work hard with your IDs :notworthy: and I can't recall you doing this, so it would be you these new folks would look to, along with the outher regulars of the Whatsits Thread :icon_thumleft:

SS
 

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Silver Searcher said:
:violent1: :protest:

How many times do we get this when some one posts a button....Blazer Button :BangHead: :BangHead: First looks like a livery button to me :P infact they both do to me, I have some that are very similar..Nice finds :icon_thumleft:

SS
Well, I see a lot of head banging SS and I apologize for not posting any supporting pics or links. That's not like me. Maybe I got lazy :dontknow: or maybe its because we have been here many times before.

Its a lot of work searching thru thousands upon thousands of blazer variations but those that read my posts know I am never afraid of some hard research. I never said they were modern, but these designs are still used today. They have all the elements- rusted back, lions rampant, shield, crown, crest, ribbon, etc. Blazer buttons are very often made in a Livery or Navy motif but that doesn't make them Livery.



I took a lot of time posting, lost it all once, had to retype and research everything.. I even used spell check to prevent any unnecessary editing. I know that bothers some members. I hope this helps explain it. :)

The first button may have a sword. This is not an exact match but I feel its close enough. http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=29562
The second button is actually a variation the Belgium Crest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Belgium
Both are civilian fashion blazer buttons I am 99.99% sure.
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
Silver Searcher said:
:violent1: :protest:

How many times do we get this when some one posts a button....Blazer Button :BangHead: :BangHead: First looks like a livery button to me :P infact they both do to me, I have some that are very similar..Nice finds :icon_thumleft:

SS
Well, I see a lot of head banging SS and I apologize for not posting any supporting pics or links. That's not like me. Maybe I got lazy :dontknow: or maybe its because we have been here many times before.

Its a lot of work searching thru thousands upon thousands of blazer variations but those that read my posts know I am never afraid of some hard research. I never said they were modern, but these designs are still used today. They have all the elements- rusted back, lions rampant, shield, crown, crest, ribbon, etc. Blazer buttons are very often made in a Livery or Navy motif but that doesn't make them Livery.



I took a lot of time posting, lost it all once, had to retype and research everything.. I even used spell check to prevent any unnecessary editing. I know that bothers some members. I hope this helps explain it. :)

The first button may have a sword. This is not an exact match but I feel its close enough. http://www.waterburybutton.com/cart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=29562
The second button is actually a variation the Belgium Crest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Belgium
Both are civilian fashion blazer buttons I am 99.99% sure.
So much for ignore.
 

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Silver Searcher said:
So much for ignore.
Yea I know. I cant help myself and I peek sometimes.

I apologize for past misunderstandings. :-[ I guess Im just over passionate about the What Is It forum. But life is too short for arguments. I need to learn to get along because TN is a group effort.

I know what you are saying. Its a thin line between Navy and Navy blazer. Or Livery and blazer (with Livery design). Some blazers are exactly like a Livery.
Some mistakes have occured in the past on calling it a blazer too fast but I recognized these designs. I have seen them before.
 

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Hears an example of a fashion blazer/career uniform button that looks like a Livery.
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
Silver Searcher said:
So much for ignore.
Yea I know. I cant help myself and I peek sometimes.

I apologize for past misunderstandings. :-[ I guess Im just over passionate about the What Is It forum. But life is too short for arguments. I need to learn to get along because TN is a group effort.

I know what you are saying. Its a thin line between Navy and Navy blazer. Or Livery and blazer (with Livery design). Some blazers are exactly like a Livery.
Some mistakes have occured in the past on calling it a blazer too fast but I recognized these designs. I have seen them before.
I was not getting at you personely :) it was the general remark we get on a lot of posts, this doesn't help the poster. The links you posted are very good :icon_thumleft: and if is was my thread I would be very pleased with the imformation you have posted :notworthy: way better than just Blazer Button :icon_thumleft:

SS
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
Hears an example of a fashion blazer/career uniform button that looks like a Livery.
Yes...but that's new, the one shown above is dug...and that's why we can't just assign it to Blazer Button :) when infact it could be the real deal :icon_thumleft:

SS
 

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I dont dig many Roman coins and Celtic rings in South Florida so I have become a professional on blazer buttons. :'( I agree supporting pics and links are necessary. Especially with new members looking for authentication.
 

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"I apologize for past misunderstandings. Embarrassed I guess Im just over passionate about the What Is It forum. But life is too short for arguments. I need to learn to get along because TN is a group effort."


That's a very stand up statement Dale.
I look up to you for that. :)
Mike
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
I dont dig many Roman coins and Celtic rings in South Florida so I have become a professional on blazer buttons. :'( I agree supporting pics and links are necessary. Especially with new members looking for authentication.
Horses for courses, I don't get the chance to find shipwreck coins either :wink: mind you I did see a 8 reall on a rally dug :o

SS
 

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Actually that career crest button looks like a 2-piece front. :wink:

Celts and shipwrecks... all I dig up is bits of farm junque and busted butter crocks.
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4-H said:
"I apologize for past misunderstandings. Embarrassed I guess Im just over passionate about the What Is It forum. But life is too short for arguments. I need to learn to get along because TN is a group effort."


That's a very stand up statement Dale.
I look up to you for that. :)
Mike
Thanks. I was wrong for arguing. (in the past) It makes us all look bad.
 

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Thank you all for your information , I really do appreciate TN and all you guys and galls.
I am very sorry for not being more knowledgeable on the relics I found, I did look all over net but must have looked in wrong places. Thanks again !!
TTH
 

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