USMC Hat Button, Could someone date it?

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I originally posted this hat button (I think it goes on the side of an Officers hat) in this thread.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,52293.msg375938.html#msg375938

I was wondering if anyone can date it. After I cleaned it, it seems a little different than the one ID'ed in my original thread.

The last picture is of the button that was posted in my original thread, it looks very close but it is not exactly the same as the one I found.
 

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Hey, I just saw a clue in the rear shot of the button. Some writing.
 

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Looks like WC 1812
S-1769
 

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My book on Uniform buttons shows this design made by 3 different manufactures of Marine Corp buttons. Identified as used from about 1860 into the post Civil War period. It States, " The Marine Corps device has five-pointed stars and a wide border 23 mm." It's in nice shape. Good find.

HH, Tempe
 

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Now that I look at the top picture more carfully. I think I miss identified your button. The differences in them are very subtle, but I think yours is older. Being shown as made by R&W. Robinson Co., " Maunfactured from the late 1830's through 1840's, the specimen was the first Marine button to employ two-piece construction, a feature which strengthened shank attachment." I was looking at the picture on the bottom thinking they were the same one. Sorry about that.

Good Luck, Tempe
 

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tempe812 said:
Now that I look at the top picture more carfully. I think I miss identified your button. The differences in them are very subtle, but I think yours is older. Being shown as made by R&W. Robinson Co., " Maunfactured from the late 1830's through 1840's, the specimen was the first Marine button to employ two-piece construction, a feature which strengthened shank attachment." I was looking at the picture on the bottom thinking they were the same one. Sorry about that.

Good Luck, Tempe

Thanks you very much Tempe, you made my day.

HH and May the AU2 come your way easily.
 

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