I have use them for years,when you get a target line ,look down that line and see something at a distant tree,rock,then move over 30 feet and shoot it again,now see where this line cross's the first line........then hold the Y rod back on the target but this time hold it lose ,if the target is pushing back in your face leave it,minerals, if its slowing pulling into the target go check it out. when you get to the target use it like you pointing ,but only hold one side of Y rod ,this will let it bob up and down...... i would play with a target on the ground tell you get use to it, put you some gold on the ground and silver 10 are 20 feet apart ,load the Y- rod with gold and swing it on the gold line, you will notice that it pulling down into the gold,then (without) loading it with silver put it over on the silver line and you notice its pushing back into your face telling you its not GOLD. test with the Y-Rod and learn what the signal line are picking up ,in other words sleep with it,get good with it test,test.then go hunt for your treasure,most people gets a dowsing rod and think they are ready to hunt,they find trash and give up,..............learn what the signal are on your rod before you hunt for treasure. good luck.