Bomber, I have 2 fisher 1280,s. They don,t miss much. But they are terriable in salt water. In fresh water they are good. My biggest problem I have had is you never know when the seal might leak. It happened to me a few times. Not good,full of muddy water,and rust. Now I have a excal. 1000, great detector. No more nails,tacks or bobby pins. Yes they cost more but you can get your money back quick in gold rings. Good luck. Mike.