what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

[abucooche]

what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

i found the smaller one a month ago and found the larger one yesterday. they were found on an indian site but i have no clue? any ideas tnet experts

 

[kuger]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Not sure,but you are in a dang good site!!!

 

[JT]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

They both look like a corner is broken off. Assuming they pivot where the holes are, i'd venture a guess they're keyhole covers for locks.

 

[Kenosha Kid]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

They both look like a corner is broken off. Assuming they pivot where the holes are, i'd venture a guess they're keyhole covers for locks.

I think if it had a hole, in the part that's broken off, it wouldn't be able to pivot. Most keyhole covers either had one pivot hole (which would be at the top of this piece) or a key shaped hole if it was fixed to the trunk. My guess is it's hardware from a trunk; maybe what is known as a "clamp", similar to this :

http://www.antique-hardware.com/Trunk Parts - New/Slats and Clamps.htm (see T-143)

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Well, I can tell they are 18th C, but unsure what furniture they attached to

Not spoon handles.

 

[DCMatt]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Just a guess. but maybe...



DCMatt

 

[abucooche]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Just a guess. but maybe...




DCMatt

awsome, the pic on the opposite page is the actual design on my item . how cool, thanks!!!!!

 

[kuger]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Great guess Matt!!!!

 

[timekiller]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"


Take Care,
Pete,
Yesterday!
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,390341.0.html

 

[Kenosha Kid]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

Just a guess. but maybe...

DCMatt

awsome, the pic on the opposite page is the actual design on my item . how cool, thanks!!!!!

Nice ID ! So, does it state what English trade gun it's for? ... a description, etc. ?

 

[timekiller]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

It may not even be english.Might be french.And would swing that way more myself if you found it down in alabama.Scroll down through this post of mine you'll see what I mean.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,301590.msg2177363.html#msg2177363

 

[Kenosha Kid]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

It may not even be english.Might be french.And would swing that way more myself if you found it down in alabama.Scroll down through this post of mine you'll see what I mean.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,301590.msg2177363.html#msg2177363

abucooche from childersburg, AL is the one that found it, so it makes sense that it might be French.

I could only read a partial (in the English trade gun book) from the pic that DCMatt posted. The "opposite page" that abucooche is talking about mentions Fort Federica (Georgia), some place in Texas and another for Montgomery, AL. I'm just not sure which goes to what picture shown.

DCMatt? Can you post a pic of the next page?

 

[abucooche]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

It may not even be english.Might be french.And would swing that way more myself if you found it down in alabama.Scroll down through this post of mine you'll see what I mean.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,301590.msg2177363.html#msg2177363

abucooche from childersburg, AL is the one that found it, so it makes sense that it might be French.

I could only read a partial (in the English trade gun book) from the pic that DCMatt posted. The "opposite page" that abucooche is talking about mentions Fort Federica (Georgia), some place in Texas and another for Montgomery, AL. I'm just not sure which goes to what picture shown.

DCMatt? Can you post a pic of the next page?

yes, you are right. i am actually about 40 mins from ft. toulouse near montgomery. interesting to find a pic with the same design. that would be great to see the second page, or even the name of the the book!!

 

[Kenosha Kid]

Re: what are these "spoon handle thingies?"

yes, you are right. i am actually about 40 mins from ft. toulouse near montgomery. interesting to find a pic with the same design. that would be great to see the second page, or even the name of the the book!!

Or, it could be English. According to this, the English may have copied the French design because "The Indians accepted this style because of their familiarity with the French stock shape and the brass butt plate."

http://www.northstarwest.com/early_english.aspx