wheres the spots???d@mn

[jorge del norte]

I have only found one silver, and I swear it was a new drop of a old coin. i think the key is to find the spots........it's tough to find good hunting spots, cause i don't like asking and talking to people too much, i rather get in and get out... my new idea is just go to the woods.......no-one will bother me there.......I tried research today, went to the local muesum, snapped some photos maps, and photographs.......I'm looking for a map like **MonaLisa** has shown before that shows the old homesteads.....I can't find one. I havent been to the library yet though.

question, when you locate these spots......some of you guys just park and hunt....no permission givin........everytime i find a spot like that, i get asked to leave......by some idiot that doesnt even own the land.....nosey-whatchout people!!! sorry for the grip!!!! but i'm sick of churches, parks, schools......oh freakin....boy a lincoln clad cent......smile so hard my teeth fall out!!!!

d@mn......mws

 

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[coolcash2004]

Hmmmm....

I have your same exact problem exept that i have hunted old spots and still never found a silver rossie! I use an ACE 250 and only dig the targets 4-6 inches that come up as coin. Should i dig the shaky, trash signals too?

The only advice i can give is: go hunting at night with a flash light.

-CC

 

[hollowpointred]

Hmmmm....

I have your same exact problem exept that i have hunted old spots and still never found a silver rossie! I use an ACE 250 and only dig the targets 4-6 inches that come up as coin. Should i dig the shaky, trash signals too?

The only advice i can give is: go hunting at night with a flash light.

-CC

dont forget that old silver can sometimes be shallow too. i found a 1781 1/2 reale at 2 inches once! it all depends upon the ground conditions.

 

[lucky1777]

Hmmmm....

I have your same exact problem exept that i have hunted old spots and still never found a silver rossie! I use an ACE 250 and only dig the targets 4-6 inches that come up as coin. Should i dig the shaky, trash signals too?

The only advice i can give is: go hunting at night with a flash light.

-CC

If its a positive signal then dig it. I found my first Seated dime in a park that has been hunted to death. It read at a 58 on my MXT. Normally dimes are at 79-81.

 

[coolcash2004]

Thanks guys!

-CC

 

[damz68]

On the maps try this. Type in USA photomaps on your search bar. Go to the site and download the program. When you start the program go to new map location and type in the longitude/latitude of the area you want maps of then go to download map data and the litlle blocks will start to fill in. Chances ae your cordinates will not be dead on and you will get something close to where you want. Just keep downloading till you get what you want. I have got my whole state in topos and arial photos. It is all free. That should keep you from many trips to the library. One thing the maps are large files and can eat up a lot of space, I think my state= 5 gigabytes.

As far as hunting goes, I use to ask but the answer is always no, I am talking 50+ times. So I dont bother no more, I will just take a drive and look for abandoned houses that have a "lot for sale" sign. You can find these in new commercial areas, sometimes. Bad thing is the yards are so grown over that it is hard to swing or there is a ton of debris under 4" of leaf litter. I also hit lots for sale without houses at one time there may have been a house there and sometimes they will show up on those top maps I told you to get. If you do get that program you can get the date of the map under the help heading and a lot of those topos are very old. For instance Abbeville east SC was done in 1938. On that map it shows a lot of hoses that are now gone and a lot of new houses that were not mapped.

I do know how you feel, it sucks getting run off. People just dont want you on there land. The lots I go to are owned by the banks, so. The chances of seeing someone are slim and the areas should be saved of valubles before the dozers tear it up and it is lost forever. Another good thing to do is get a partner, for some reason people are more inclined to say yes when there are two of you.

 

[damz68]

I just noticed you are in NC. What part? I am in Greenville SC. If you ever want to get together, meet halfway, just let me know.

 

[Recruiter]

I hear you MWS. I have spent the last two days MD where three old houses (built in the 40s maybe 50s) were just torn down. Only found two items so far. A silver plated spoon marked Oklahoma University and a glass door knob. I get a little disapointed when I do not find anything worth while and to pump me back up again I read this site. Should be some old money there, I just have to find it.

Have a great one.

 

[Postalrevnant]

loads of stealin here. I cannot just stop at a spot for fear of getting a police ride and with my luck I will have stopped at some spot that someone robbed and was unnoticed until I stopped there.

But I sure love the thrill of the hunt, so I am beginning to look further away. And talking to the older folks to find out where the hang outs used to be. I sometimes partyed in the woods so that no one would catch us. That's the places I am trying to find, only from peps in their 60's -80's. Some of the tips were good ones but they have been stip mined and covered now. Perhaps I will get lucky and find one untouched.

It's kinda too bad you don't really want to talk to someone. Old Folks homes seem to be a good wealth of information. So far most has been changed, but I am sure I will come upon something soon.

Good Luck,

Rev

 

[Gribnitz]

Sheesh people. I sure wish people would stop giving BAD advice? You can't just go out and hunt any ole place with a flashlight. Your looking to get yourself arrested or worse shot. The best spots ARE on private property and if your wanting to find those spots, your going to have to get up the guts to ask for permission. NC and SC are some prime old coin and CW areas. You may get a lot of 'no', but you will get some yes's too. Get used to it. We all get rejection and deal with it, then move on to the next spot.

 

[damz68]

It is not all bad advise. If you want to get out and do some detecting and you dont feel like getting rejected that day, hit the land that is owned by the bank and you have no worries. However, I would never hunt at night nor would I tresspass on private or government land. I would love to hit the NF but it is off limits to detecting in EVERY state. I have got permission in one park and at one church. It does not matter if it is face to face or over the phone, the answer is always no. Something tells me that you have been very lucky and if you were rejected much more either you would give up the hobby or find you a place where you could be left alone.

My brother in law is a police and he told me that they will not stop to question a TH'er unless they were called for that reason and unless there is a no trespassing sign they will do nothing but tell you to leave.

 

[Boobydoo]

I'm looking for a map like **MonaLisa** has shown before that shows the old homesteads.....I can't find one. I havent been to the library yet though.

Try going to your local town museum. They often sell copies of old maps for $1 to $5.
I did that then got a large copy made the same size as a current map so I could overlay them which really helped because the streets routes and even their names have changed in the last 150 years.

Good luck
BDoo

 

[eric in ks]

GREAT advice Gribnitz. The best spots usually are on private land and rejection sucks, but keep asking and it'll pay off. I get turned down to hunt vacant lots, but have had people with really nice old houses ask me if I want to hunt their yard. Figure out that one. I dug some shotgun headstamps and a tax token last weekend and my mind drifted to Alabama. HH, Eric

 

[Gribnitz]

Something tells me that you have been very lucky and if you were rejected much more either you would give up the hobby or find you a place where you could be left alone.

My brother in law is a police and he told me that they will not stop to question a TH'er unless they were called for that reason and unless there is a no trespassing sign they will do nothing but tell you to leave.

No, not at all. I ask a lot and get some yes, some no. Try this scenario...researching old maps, libraries, OR records and hunting countless yards and fields over a 2 year period. Finally putting 2 and 2 together and figuring out where the spot was, then getting a "no" for all your effort ? I tell you, that sucks a lot worse than getting a no just because you stopped at a house and knocked. But you know what ? There are a lot more places out there, and there are going to be a lot more no's too.

On to the point of the police not bothering you unless someone calls, or do not have 'no trespassing' signs. That is still a big black eye to metal detectorists and the next guy that walks up to the owners door and knocks and asks for permission correctly. Guess what, you tainted that home owners view of detectorists and a person swinging a detector will never get in there now. It's bad form and our hobby is enough trouble with the bad apples that make the headlines.

 

[mountainplayer]

Gribnitz and Eric in KS, I can't agree with you more. MWS, I get the feeling you didn't intend for this thread to go the route of justifying trespassing on private land, but it seems to be where its headed. So, I've got to put my two cents in.

Private land needs to be respected, period. No one's NEED to find something takes precedence over someone elses right to do with their land what they wish. Even if its to let valuables get bulldozed into oblivion. Owning land is a financial committment, sometimes invites liability, and in most cases may keep folks from using their cash for something they'd enjoy in the short term, like buying a new metal detector!

I'm new to this great hobby, and hurting for good spots just like everyone else, but sheesh! How'd you like to wake up in the morning and find someone picking fruit off your tree, swimming in your pool, or making off with something that you own? And them have them justify their actions by pointing out that you're just letting it got to waste?

If you really want to preserve this hobby, do the research, make the calls, and savor every minute of a great spot when you do get permission.

MP

 

[COUNTRY GIRL]

Thank you! Where were you folks when this thred first started? I was so disapointed in the lack of respect for property owners I deleted my response. Now that I Have back up............Tsk, Tsk, Tsk, always ask for permission, no matter the answer. Adjust your attitude and dig everything!

The NAIL QUEEN

 

[jorge del norte]

Thanks for all the input.....Thing is i don't want to get run off, and finding and asking for permission to hunt is a hobby in itself........ I always hunt for about a 1hr or 2hr, during week before work...weekend hunts, don't mix with the family. I have been hunting mostly in town. but it is difficult, because to many weary land owners. My town has no civil war history to speak of, even though it's in the south. A major Revolutionary War Battle took place here (battle of guilford courthouse, north carolina), but you can't get close to that area, the old county seat was moved after the revolutionary war, to a more central location. The whole early pre- Rev war county seat settlement, and battlefield are now a massive Military Park. So that knocks out finding real old stuff. The county seat moved around 1800, so my city area is kind of young so to speak.......and not to easy to hunt, through my experience. I have looking into hunting the existing creeks beds leading to the old county seat settlement, and battlefields, and old farm lands. Another problem is allot of damming of those creeks, and now vast areas are lakes, around the county seat settlement, and battlefield, so allot might be underwater. And lastly development, urban sprawl.........thanks for hearing me rant.

 

[jorge del norte]

by the way I have be approched now 3 times

1) on municipal land by a rent-a-cop.....found 5 bucks in clad!
2) by a crabby old lady that did'nt even know who owned the land, I did know because of GIS search, by the way she lied too...found silver fork, wheats....was going to be a great spot......fug!
3) a sheriff deputy asked what the hell? then he realized we went to high school together, we chit chat a bit, and then said carry on I see no "No Trespassing" sign, so I'z did.....but no silver coins......dang.

I hope I never get approched again....the 3rd time I got lucky i think.

 

[damz68]

Something tells me that you have been very lucky and if you were rejected much more either you would give up the hobby or find you a place where you could be left alone.

My brother in law is a police and he told me that they will not stop to question a TH'er unless they were called for that reason and unless there is a no trespassing sign they will do nothing but tell you to leave.

No, not at all. I ask a lot and get some yes, some no. Try this scenario...researching old maps, libraries, OR records and hunting countless yards and fields over a 2 year period. Finally putting 2 and 2 together and figuring out where the spot was, then getting a "no" for all your effort ? I tell you, that sucks a lot worse than getting a no just because you stopped at a house and knocked. But you know what ? There are a lot more places out there, and there are going to be a lot more no's too.

On to the point of the police not bothering you unless someone calls, or do not have 'no trespassing' signs. That is still a big black eye to metal detectorists and the next guy that walks up to the owners door and knocks and asks for permission correctly. Guess what, you tainted that home owners view of detectorists and a person swinging a detector will never get in there now. It's bad form and our hobby is enough trouble with the bad apples that make the headlines.

I understand completly and I agree with you, however the land I go on is between owners. A bank owns the land so there is no owner to tell a future detectorist no, there is no blackeye. Unless the suit happens to pull up while you were detecting, and I can tell you he would have said no to begin with. So, nothing lost and free from trouble.

Also, there are quite a few people on this forum who do things I would never do and tresspassing on private land is one. The person that started this thread wants to hunt, without getting in trouble and without asking. In that case I have given great advise and I will continue to search vacant lots that are for sale as long as I am into this hobby. I will never hunt the NF or tresspass on private land without getting permission and I will never hunt schools, churches or parks without getting permission. I also leave it as I found it, no holes, mud spots or day later brown spots. I am far from the bad guy.

 

[jorge del norte]

and I will never hunt schools, churches or parks without getting permission.

this kills me, i always thought they were fair game, i never ask at those places......

i guess my area is not friendly......maybe as much as other places