Why Does "Curse" Never Mention Dunfield Dig at Cave-In Pit?

[Zom]

Dunfield certainly went to extremes in his excavations of Smith's Cove and the Money Pit, but it looks like he did a huge excavation of the Cave-In pit near Smith Cove... as we see in this picture https://www.oakislandmoneypit.com/images/photos/dig.jpg and also there's a dig at near where the Stone Arrow was on the south shore.

I don't recall much mention of ANY dig at the Cave-In pit on Curse Of Oak Island... but recently they do discuss blasting nearby to try and disrupt the alleged flood tunnels.

So what happened to Dunfield's documentation for these excavations.

 

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

Dunfield did a pretty exhaustive excavation of the pit area (including the Hedden and Chappel shafts) and Smith's Cove and found nothing of interest. Where is the basis of a multi-year TV series in that?

 

[franklin]

Dumfield excavated everything to a depth of 142 ft. and drilled below the 180 ft through a layer of limestone 2 ft. thick. Here is some of his letters.

 

[Zom]

Dumfield excavated everything to a depth of 142 ft. and drilled below the 180 ft through a layer of limestone 2 ft. thick. Here is some of his letters.

Thanks!! The map of bedrock does show Dunfield dug deep into the Cave-In Pit.

 

[freeman]

You either accept the evidence that nothing was there or you ignore it and go but, but, but Marty, maybe everyone missed it so let's have a go.

 

[franklin]

Dunfield did a pretty exhaustive excavation of the pit area (including the Hedden and Chappel shafts) and Smith's Cove and found nothing of interest. Where is the basis of a multi-year TV series in that?

That is the very reason Dumfield is never mentioned on the "Curse of Oak Island Movie."

 

[civil_war22]

Dunfield did a pretty exhaustive excavation of the pit area (including the Hedden and Chappel shafts) and Smith's Cove and found nothing of interest. Where is the basis of a multi-year TV series in that?

I feel the same way, as in the same way I feel about the confederate gold show brought on after by that guy with a lisp. It could have lasted a season. At the max 2 seasons, but come on. A lot of this is just stuff found by previous searchers, and buried back up once they were done documenting it, and recovering what items of interest they found

 

[ARC]

Don't worry... they are gonna get to that.

Season 17 episode 5.

 

[Zom]

That is the very reason Dumfield is never mentioned on the "Curse of Oak Island Movie."

Dunfield is mentioned often. But show is spends more time rehashing some aspects of OI history and never mentioning others. I don't recall ANY mention of Dunfield excavating deep into the Cave In Pit... (middle of photo) and while there was mention of Dunfield moving the stone triangle... I don't think it's ever mention where. It seems that Dunfield did a big dig in that area too as seen in some aerial photos.... see top right of photo

 

[Zom]

I feel the same way, as in the same way I feel about the confederate gold show brought on after by that guy with a lisp. It could have lasted a season. At the max 2 seasons, but come on. A lot of this is just stuff found by previous searchers, and buried back up once they were done documenting it, and recovering what items of interest they found

It seems things are being rediscovered... like in Smith's Cove, but there's been no mention of things being previously dated by anyone before the Laginas... like the U Shape Structure, the slipway, or the bones.

But I agree there seems to be no strategy to what the Laginas were doing. Why spend so much time on 10X which was 180' away from the Money Pit? OK, it was the only pace there was "easy" access to anything deep. I would have thought trying to prove whether there were any man made flood tunnels would have been a top priority. If there's no evidence of any, then there's no evidence anyone was using flooding as security because there was nothing to protect.

Whether they find the 90 foot stone would be a huge breakthrough. But why did it take one guy thinking back 40 years to remember it might be in the back yard of the museum? If he want to Blankenship's funeral... did he know him? Why not tell Blankenship?

Too many questions.

 

[gazzahk]

Whether they find the 90 foot stone would be a huge breakthrough. But why did it take one guy thinking back 40 years to remember it might be in the back yard of the museum? If he want to Blankenship's funeral... did he know him? Why not tell Blankenship?

There never was a 90 ft stone with a carved code on it.. So finding it would not be a breakthrough it would be a hoax...

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/oak-island/571864-90-foot-stone-evidence-lack.html

Dunfeild also proved the water in th pit was not from smith's cove or flood tunnels

In 1965, Robert Dunfield, a qualified and experienced geologist, applied modern survey techniques and open-pit mining methods to the island.


He conducted spectrographic tests on the water from the Pit and showed it was coming from the ocean, not from the sea immediately adjacent OI.

When his examination by closed circuit television of his 140-foot shaft failed to show any indication of a flood tunnel, he rode the bucket of an excavator to the bottom to confirm this personally.

His measurements of the inflow of water into the Pit from above 140 feet (only 15 gallons per minute) demonstrated that nearly all the water intake of the Pit was coming from below, not from a flood tunnel above 140 feet.

He conducted dye tests, which failed to disclose a connection to the adjacent sea.

In June 1966 and February 1967, he wrote a number of letters regarding his work on Oak Island and concerning the idea of a flood tunnel stated:

"We resolved the water problem completely beyond a shadow of a doubt. Water enters through a natural course and caves typical to the limestone and gypsum of the Windsor formation."

His final stated position on this matter:

"This deceives the theory of man-made flood tunnels from which water defeated searchers for the past 170 years"

https://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/floodtunnel.shtml

 

[n2mini]

IF the floods tunnels were ever there they would have long ago been blocked/filled in/dug up by all the earlier searches in Smiths Cove . Dunfield only proved they were not still working if they were ever there to start with.. I still say and all these pics above prove my point that Dunfiled while he did dig a big hole, it is not 100' wide all the way down to 140' plus. As you can see with the pic of him and Blankenship standing on that platform at the widest point in that pic the hole is what 10'-15' wide.

 

[Zom]

I still say and all these pics above prove my point that Dunfiled while he did dig a big hole, it is not 100' wide all the way down to 140' plus. As you can see with the pic of him and Blankenship standing on that platform at the widest point in that pic the hole is what 10'-15' wide.

The pics of Dunfield suggest that the hole wasn't 100' circular, but more of a trench that could have been 100' wide. The cave in pit dig looks like it was easily a 100'+ circular hole. Perhaps it served two purposes.... an attempt to look for/disrupt any possible flood tunnel... and to provide fill for the Smith Cover dike.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Perhaps the images above are not his final achievement.

 

[Zom]

Perhaps the images above are not his final achievement.

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I've always found that image interesting. I'm assuming that's Dunfield's Money Pit dig, not the Cave In pit. And I assume he's uncovered one of the walls of an old searcher shaft there.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Two old shafts. Hedden's and Chappel's.

Last count I did there had been 28 groups that have dug or drilled in search of treasure on Oak Island since 1795. Some spent years there. Possibly treasure was found but the lucky folks involved were wise enough to keep their mouths shut about it.

The chances of finding anything valuable or historically relevant after so much carnage on that island are pretty slim. My belief is that the original "pit" was a glacial relic sink-hole and had nothing to do with human activity.

 

[n2mini]

and you see how much narrow that hole is getting with it only being 30' deep or so. SO now think of it being 100' deep how narrow it will be to keep it from caving in on itself. Even today you would not dig a hole 100' deep and it be 100' wide all the way down without some serious bracing, ground frozen or something.. He is using nothing at all for bracing...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Look up to the documentation Franklin posted earlier:

The clay allowed a "0 degree shear" and did nor require much shoring up.

 

[n2mini]

Might be true some where on the island but it is not in the pics posted here.. Look at any of the holes in the pics posted and none of them have shear walls of more then 10' at any time...They all are sloped in greatly...Why do you think that shaft that is exposed has boarded up walls. They couldn't even dig a 10' wide shaft straight down without bracing it...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

So how deep could the original "money pit" have been in your scenario?

By the way - I'm not trying to justify anything. I think a bunch of dreamers have been chasing their tails since 1795.