Will these work with Equinox 800?

Interesting, Ziggy. The specs on the Trond phones clearly say Bluetooth 4.2.

Sounds like you are up for some testing. Why don't you send me an email (you have my address), and we'll work something out.

Then, when done, I'll report back here for everyone's benefit...

Steve
 

McKinney -- have you updated your machine to V2.0 Equinox firmware? If so, and if your Tronds continue to work with the V2.0 firmware, then that would seem to confirm that the issue is NOT on Minelab's end (i.e. something that changed with the update from V1.75 to V2.0), but instead is a change in the Miccus phones between the V4.2 Bluetooth version, and the V5.0 Bluetooth version...

Thanks!

Steve

I upgraded to both 1.75 and 2.0 but hardly gave those versions a week, or two tops, and went back to V1.50. I would have logically found a problem with one of the upgrades and the Trond HPs, but it was a short test cycle, so it's possible there were difficulties. I didn't go back to V1.50 for HP issues. I'd remember that.
 

I was told by Trond that the update from 4.2 to 5.0 happened faster than the packaging change. So it is possible to have 5.0 in 4.2 packaging.

tabman
 

tabman -- that is excellent information. Thank you for that -- a very important piece of info, for my upcoming testing. IF it turns out, in the end, that it is a case where Bluetooth 4.2 works on the Equinox and Bluetooth 5.0 does not, then that is going to make it REALLY difficult for those of us who are hoping to purchase "BT80" type headphones for our Equinoxes. If the paperwork says Bluetooth 4.2, but the phones are actually 5.0, then it sounds like we are going to have some REAL difficulty securing the proper sets of headphones.

tabman -- can you tell me how you got in touch with someone at Trond? I may have to give them a call, and see what I might be able to figure out. Right now, I'm wondering if there isn't some way I might be able to look into getting the 4.2 Bluetooth phones "back in production," for us Equinox users (assuming it does indeed turn out to be a Bluetooth 4.2 vs. 5.0 issue). Hmm...

Steve
 

Hi, all!

I have been thinking about, and working on, this issue today.

First, of course I want to test both sets of Ziggy-Grimm's headphones with my Equinox (thanks, Ziggy). But I am suspecting that it is indeed the version Bluetooth 5.0 upgrade, that is the issue. Tabman, your piece of information has been essential (that you found out from Trond that they are selling their newest phones with the 5.0 upgrade, but still with the old 4.2 paperwork). I will confirm this, both by testing Ziggy's headphones, and by speaking with Trond directly, to confirm.


If my suspicion turns out to be correct, then I think I may look into carrying this very same style of headphones through Steve's Detector Rods, but built to the proper specs (i.e. the way they used to be, prior to the Bluetooth 5.0 upgrade). In other words, I would look to have these phones produced once again with the prior generation specifications -- so that they pair correctly with the Equinox (just as both the Trond and the Miccus ones used to, up until recently). I'm laying some groundwork for this possibility as we speak...

Thoughts, anyone?

Steve
 

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It's my understanding that the Nox Bluetooth transmitter is BT 4.1 with LL, so if the Nox can't be updated, any headphones rated higher than BT 4.1 with LL aren't going to perform any better with the Nox. So, there would be no need to spend extra money on 4.2 or 5.0. I'm I missing something?

tabman
 

Yes, BT 5 does nothing as far as tge Nox is concerned, but I don't really see BT 5 driving up the price of BT Headphones, either. The important thing is to ensure they are APTX LL.
 

My Avantree Headphones are 5.0 and they work just fine in LL with my 600. [2020 New] Avantree AS9PA aptX Low Latency Bluetooth 5.0 Over Ear Headphones for Computer TV Watching, Class 1 Long Range Wireless Wired Hi-FI Stereo Headset with Mic, for PC Cell Phones Tablets https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKYV9Z2/?tag=treasurenet01-20
 

As to the sound quality, comfort and fit, etc., which is better, the Miccus SR-71 or the Trond TD-BH01?

tabman
 

Comfort and fit should be essentially identical; they are both BT-80 headphones, build from the same "shell."

Steve
 

I have OneAudio low latency Bluetooth headphones from amazon. They are $49 but have given instant coupons I paid $22.
They really are excellent. As good as the minelab-same features exactly. Others have caught on and they are selling a lot

I just picked up OneAudio low latency Bluetooth headphones for $24.95. They work great! The Ausdom AH3 low latency Bluetooth headphones are still my favorites. I like them better than the Miccus SR-71 and Minelab's ML-80 headphones.

tabman

tabman
 

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