Thanks Jag,I appreciate that.I had to kind of shotgun this year and dredge some places I knew nothing about but with the dredge ban on the horizon it was now or never(a couple produced very well,go figure!Now I will have to look at them knowing whats there until the ban is lifted!I am back on my old turf now though and am into a paystreak that is the chunkier stuff unlike the fine streak I worked last year.Alpha,let me know,as I said these are dredge cons and %90 blacksand,which is different than panning flow sand.If you cant pan blacksand you cant pan.