Bravowhiskey I thought just like you until today. Before I tell this story, allow me to be the one that acknowledges the fact that I have posted many many geofacts questioning their archeological significance. Of course I got dog piled and a few times had my feelings hurt. However, all of my pieces in question, well, I feel would have appealed to the eye of any surface hunting amateur. All of my "is this" pieces were tools, and never points. Any way, after work today I stopped to get gas and shoot the crap with the old fellows. I frequent that store, so, often I'll have my day's finds in my pockets, and let the guys look at them. This kid,( well I say kid, he's about 25) is always telling me my finds are "pretty good " or "I have much better, I would have left that one, its broken", things to that nature. Never a compliment. Today, I had not been hunting, so he had nothing to put down. Nonetheless, he started talking about all his nice finds and my crap finds. Finally I ask him "can I come look at your frames?" He says "yes, but you can't take pictures to post on line". When I walked into his house, and saw his frames, I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. This cat had about 10 frames of jagged gravels. Not one even questionable piece. He was all proud and talking junk, while I sat dumbfounded. When I finally was able to get in my truck I started thinking about this awkward situation. I didn't insult the guy like he does me, I sat quiet, with no compliments, no nothing. Driving I spoke out loud to my self, I'm glad I have sense enough to leave my gravel in the drive way. I just as you, at once felt lucky with one or two finds. Now, I feel lucky just to know a find from a field rock. Sorry for the long post, but I had to share this, and you gave me an open door with your post. I hope that gravel collecting trash talker reads this. He needs to get on here and study!!