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[bigscoop]

HA! Write the book, then!

I'd still be lacking the same required source material.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

I'd still be lacking the same required source material.

Such as...?

 

[bigscoop]

Here's the thing with all of this, and it's something I keep going back to. "If" this story took place during the period described only to resurface some sixty years later, regardless of the actual source, then some means of accurate record had to be kept someplace. This is issue one.

Issue two revolves around the number of people involved who clearly would have had a lot riding on the venture. So it is unthinkable that at least one or more of them would not have taken steps to protect their interest, this again creating some type of written/documented record/account.

Families.....certainly there would be some reference of either the adventure or the hidden wealth in family records and/or correspondences. This even being more assured had it been a type of business related venture.

Yet in all this time not one single reference?

So if it happened then there should be some measure of reference to it, somewhere. So, either we're looking at the wrong people or we're still looking in the wrong places?

 

[bigscoop]

I think it is real. I would like to see the papers and sort them myself. that is fun to me.


In 1980, the manuscript was donated to the Sam Houston Regional Library and Research Center in Texas, where, for the first time, it was made available to research.[108] Many researchers noticed a similarity between John Laflin's handwriting and the writing in the journal.[108] Handwriting analysis by experts revealed similarities between John Laflin's handwriting and that of the journal.[109] Laflin had been previously accused of forging letters from Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and Davy Crocket.[110] Most historians now believe the Lafitte journal to be a forgery.

This manuscript has had several opportunities to be proven one way or the other but those opportunities have been intentionally avoided. To prove it a forgery renders it worthless, to prove it authentic would ruin a lot of reputations. So don't expect any reliable testing to be done anytime in the immediate future. And a lot of those historians who support the forgery theory are also the ones who stand to lose a lot if it would prove to be likewise.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Here's the thing with all of this, and it's something I keep going back to. "If" this story took place during the period described only to resurface some sixty years later, regardless of the actual source, then some means of accurate record had to be kept someplace. This is issue one.

Issue two revolves around the number of people involved who clearly would have had a lot riding on the venture. So it is unthinkable that at least one or more of them would not have taken steps to protect their interest, this again creating some type of written/documented record/account.

Families.....certainly there would be some reference of either the adventure or the hidden wealth in family records and/or correspondences. This even being more assured had it been a type of business related venture.

Yet in all this time not one single reference?

So if it happened then there should be some measure of reference to it, somewhere. So, either we're looking at the wrong people or we're still looking in the wrong places?

Well, the RAGLAND Family Papers, here in Lynchburg, Va. allude to the Hutters, Ward, et al for the 2nd year of the Confederate War "theory" that Peter Viemeister wrote about... CONFEDERATE TREASURE COVERUP: Duty, Honor, & Deceit.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

PV was "focused" on that... and so am I! www.peterv.com/confed_treasure.htm Notice that the new PAPERS were released in 2004; so was PV's book... STILL looking for the RAGLAND FAMILY PAPERS!

 

[ECS]

Here's the thing with all of this, and it's something I keep going back to. "If" this story took place during the period described only to resurface some sixty years later, regardless of the actual source, then some means of accurate record had to be kept someplace. This is issue one.

Issue two revolves around the number of people involved who clearly would have had a lot riding on the venture. So it is unthinkable that at least one or more of them would not have taken steps to protect their interest, this again creating some type of written/documented record/account.

Families.....certainly there would be some reference of either the adventure or the hidden wealth in family records and/or correspondences. This even being more assured had it been a type of business related venture.

Yet in all this time not one single reference?

So if it happened then there should be some measure of reference to it, somewhere. So, either we're looking at the wrong people or we're still looking in the wrong places?

That is why the whole 1885 Beale Papers seem to be a western/treasure hunt dime novel with the ciphers added as a parlor game amusement worth the candle flame by Hutter, Sherman, and Ward.

 

[ECS]

I think it is real. I would like to see the papers and sort them myself...

Still, as with other names mentioned on this thread and others, there is no direct connection to Beale 1885 and Jean Lafitte's memoirs.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, it MAY well be that Lafitte's Memoirs WERE utilized for the Beale PAPERS, as a "story idea"/paper... in the Beale PAPERS (1885). Certain names are mentioned... AND! The Hutter Bros. & Ward MAY have read such on Grandpa's Risque's Plantation/Farm, as they were growing up; using 'em LATER... in the Beale PAPERS (1885).

 

[bigscoop]

Well, it MAY well be that Lafitte's Memoirs WERE utilized for the Beale PAPERS, as a "story idea"/paper... in the Beale PAPERS (1885). Certain names are mentioned... AND! The Hutter Bros. & Ward MAY have read such on Grandpa's Risque's Plantation/Farm, as they were growing up; using 'em LATER... in the Beale PAPERS (1885).

Memoirs didn't come to light until the 1940's.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Memoirs didn't come to light until the 1940's.

TY, "Scoop"... why are they used, then...?

 

[bigscoop]

There are a few direct connections from the Texas region back to Bedford county, just none that you're willing to accept even though they've been presented several times. But even so, this has still resulted in the same dead end.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

There are a few direct connections from the Texas region back to Bedford county, just none that you're willing to accept even though they've been presented several times. But even so, this has still resulted in the same dead end.

ZOMBIES...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I see the one they have on Google. not much there is it worth the 300.00 dollars ?

AGREE!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Kindle version 9.00 dollars

Have you read it...? Any good...?

 

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