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[FreeBirdTim]

So you’re telling me if your wife or girlfriend is walking to her car at night, she sees a guy running towards her and she pulls a gun on him SHE’S going to jail?? If that’s correct then why have it? Why give a person the right to carry one? Never mind the argument here, We should just give Rhode Island to Canada

Correct. You can't assume that person is going to attack you. There'd be a lot of really scared (or dead) joggers if you were allowed to do that.

 

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

You can't bring a gun to a fistfight. That's the best way I can explain it to you.

That's different as well. I can't help it if you brought a fist to a gunfight. You started it without planning well. Assault me I don't care if it is a fist, bottle, knife or gun. That's an attack and I will do what it takes to stop you.

We should be a little more civilized than to strike at one another. If we all assumed that would be a very bad idea we would be a more polite society.

 

[FreeBirdTim]

That's sensible. If someone was in my yard and I was in my house I would close the door and call the police. (And wait 20 minutes for them to arrive).

If that someone breaks and enters then things are very different.

It seems sensible, but what if that person is threatening to burn down your house or trash your car? You have to lock your door, call the cops and hope he doesn't destroy your property before they get there to arrest him. Doesn't seem right to me. Castle laws should extend to your property and not just your home.

 

[Bama Billy]

Correct. You can't assume that person is going to attack you. There'd be a lot of really scared (or dead) joggers if you were allowed to do that.

In most state you actually CAN assume exactly that. The law in your state make zero sense. You’re given the right to carry but stripped of your rights to use it. Enjoy defending that stupidity.

 

[ecmjamsit]

Whatever you do, make sure you pick up your shells when you leave. I am so tired of digging them up.

 

[RGINN]

When all is said and done, it is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

It seems sensible, but what if that person is threatening to burn down your house or trash your car? You have to lock your door, call the cops and hope he doesn't destroy your property before they get there to arrest him. Doesn't seem right to me. Castle laws should extend to your property and not just your home.

Threats are not actions. When he starts sloshing gasoline on the house then it's an active assault. And a fire jeopardizes my home (no one can cause you to flee or retreat from your own home in ANY state except Vermont, I believe).

My car is insured. I would spend more in legal fees defending a shooting than a new car would cost me.

And then there's our location - remote 20 acres.

Have you heard the expression "SSS"?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

It seems sensible, but what if that person is threatening to burn down your house or trash your car? You have to lock your door, call the cops and hope he doesn't destroy your property before they get there to arrest him. Doesn't seem right to me. Castle laws should extend to your property and not just your home.

In Florida it does extend to your car plus we have "stand your ground" law too. Under Florida law your car is the same as your home and the same castle law applies, that was why the police informed me I was justified when I pulled my firearm and in fact it was legal to have fired my weapon since the assault was taking place in my car.

Also in Florida it is legal to fire a warning shot or brandish the firearm if your in fear of imminent peril.

 

[Duckshot]

sounds like a dumb place to live to defend your own life that is why i live in The Great State Of Texas

There are ranches in TX that are more than half the size of the entire state of wilderness known as RI.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Threats are not actions. When he starts sloshing gasoline on the house then it's an active assault. And a fire jeopardizes my home (no one can cause you to flee or retreat from your own home in ANY state except Vermont, I believe).

My car is insured. I would spend more in legal fees defending a shooting than a new car would cost me.

And then there's our location - remote 20 acres.

Have you heard the expression "SSS"?

I carry firearm insurance through USCCA, my current coverage is Platinum, they did not offer Elite at the time I purchased mine:

Elite Coverage
$1,000,000
Civil Suit Defense And Damages

$150,000
Criminal Defense Protection
Up-Front Attorney Retainer

$25,000 / $250,000
Up-Front Bail Bond Funding*

$500 / day
Compensation While In Civil Court

$4,000
Personal Hardship Coverage

$4,000
Psychological Support

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[Duckshot]

Uh-oh.

You know how car insurance is REQUIRED in most states?

That's how come I drive a beater.

No thanks on that self defense insurance. They will put your name on a list as a firearm owner. No freaking thanks.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Uh-oh.

You know how car insurance is REQUIRED in most states?

That's how come I drive a beater.

No thanks on that self defense insurance. They will put your name on a list as a firearm owner. No freaking thanks.

If you have ever bought a firearm that ran a back ground check your on a list. I have it for the lawyer fees and bail money.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I actually take a different approach and I'll explain my take on it. I never wear anything that suggests "tactical"...you know, 5.11 pants, Blackhawk or Wilderness instructor belts, etc. And I don't wear anything that says I'm pro-this or anti-that. The way I approach a possible situation with an active shooter of some type is that I don't want to make myself more of a target in any way, shape or form...I just want to blend in and appear to be a nobody until it's time to act if I'm forced to. And wearing suggestive clothing only puts me in the cross-hairs that much quicker in my opinion. Especially if the shooter decides to case the area (even for as little at 30 seconds) before acting. I know if I were playing the role of the bad guy, the first targets would be my tiny-brain instinctive ones (the larger adult males nearest to me) and then next would be those targets that indicate that they may be a threat in some other way, i.e. possibly armed.

To play devil's advocate, I suppose wearing something that suggests you may be carrying may give a bad guy a second thought before approaching you in a mugging or car-jacking situation...but I prefer to rely on my situational self-awareness of what's going on around me. I try and maintain Cooper's Condition Yellow from the moment I leave the house in the morning to the moment I return that afternoon. It's really not that hard to do after years of practice. Google Jeff Cooper's Color Code if you're interested...

So, when I'm out dressed casually, I'm just another guy with Bermuda type shorts, comfortable shoes and a nicely pressed, but un-tucked shirt. Not trying to start an argument, just stating my approach.

No argument taken. I am always armed and I wear 2nd amendment and political shirts every day. I took 8 years of taekwando and one of the things they always stressed was being aware of your surroundings, I am always aware of mine.

 

[Ogre1190]

My town of Scituate alone has thousands of acres of woodlands. It's a beautiful and scenic place to live. Do some research before you make silly comments.

Go buy yourself a sense of humor. 😂

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

An acquaintance has had to escort home intruders out of his home at gunpoint twice in the last year. Luckily no shots fired.
These types of people do not magically honor some invisible boundary around your house. They are driving/walking around searching for easy money, with little respect for others lives. Many times they are just out of their minds.

My life is just as valuable to me on my way to the grocery store as it is in my home.

 

[Red James Cash]

I was at the local gunshop picking up some ammo.I came across a a decent deal.Im in the market for a nice bolt action rifle.Sitting there was a Weatherby bolt action,complete with a high-power scope,chambered for 7mm magnum.Only problem though it was a good deal I don't have 800 bucks sitting around doing nothing

 

[Duckshot]

What kind of scope was on that Weatherby?

I got a friend who has a Browning in 7mm magnum. He kills a lot of venison with that gun. He uses a low magnification Leopold scope.