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  1. #1

    Mar 2007
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    your mining claim

    what do you do if you notice someone has worked your claim? how do you handle not being able to watch your claim 24-7? these two questions would drive me crazy especially if i knew my claim held a lot of gold. thanks for your help.....JOHN

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    us
    May 2006
    Mesa, AZ
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    Prospecting

    Re: your mining claim

    You need to call the Sheriff and the BLM. Also try to document then claim jumping if you can, with video is best but pictures will do.
    Sincerely,
    Randy Wright
    History Lover

  3. #3
    us
    Can you dig it ?

    May 2005
    Fishkill N.Y.
    72

    Re: your mining claim

    They sell video cameras for hunting that are motion triggered and you can go to fish and game or the blm depending who has jurisdiction in your area you should have the land posted as well. I would get dropped of for a week and wait paitently with my trusty ar-15 and a shovel when it is all said and done have your thieves dig their graves 6' long 2' wide 4' deep at gunpoint of course just to scare the sh!t out of them.

    Hope it helps
    Too many holes to dig Too litrtle time!

  4. #4

    Mar 2007
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    Re: your mining claim

    so what you are saying is here i am sitting in michigan and my claim is in california that my claim is unsecure john

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    Mar 2003
    Redding,Calif.
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: your mining claim

    100% totally unsecure-sheriff has no jurisdiction on federal lands--FS & BLM say adjudication on claims is a cival matter. I has pics-witnesses-pounds a gold--NOTHING !! DA says no $$$ in fines for a cival matter. I know what the law says BUT if no $$$ for cash starved counties-no luck. Sheriff said to shoot the mfr's. They can hunt,camp,shoot,atv,party like mad and you can't do a thing. If they have illegal fires,drugs,overstay the federal limits then you get help. Been through this since the 60's--welcome to my world. John

  6. #6
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    May 2006
    Mesa, AZ
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    Prospecting

    Re: your mining claim

    Don't know about Cali but here in AZ they take care of these people
    Sincerely,
    Randy Wright
    History Lover

  7. #7
    us
    Jan 2008
    Black Hills of South Dakota
    Tesoro Lobo & Garrett Stinger
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: your mining claim

    I don't know where in California your claims are, but I can tell you that, for a nominal fee, there are people you can hire to check your claims (and photograph claimjumpers), and call the authorities for you. That is how they make their living, and, you can either have them on a regular basis, or check "X" number of times a month, or a week, or on weekends, or however you want to do it, and they will keep track of what they see and report to you on a regular basis.

    They will also act as your "power of attorney" to prosecute violators. (so you don't have to leave Michigan).

    B
    "Irony is the rule"

  8. #8
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    Mar 2003
    Redding,Calif.
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: your mining claim

    NAME 1-nothing is done for a nominal fee in kalif-John

  9. #9
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    Jul 2008
    Minelab
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    Re: your mining claim

    LOL good point John. This is the same question posed by anyone in the western states right now what with the price of gold and all. But, for a modest fee (depending on how rich your claim is), you can just hire me to go out there and bag any claim-jumpers and you won't have to worry about them any more. This should get interesting now.

  10. #10
    us
    Jan 2008
    Black Hills of South Dakota
    Tesoro Lobo & Garrett Stinger
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    381 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: your mining claim

    NAME 1-nothing is done for a nominal fee in kalif-John

    That's not true - of course, it all depends on what your claim is worth, and what it is worth to have to spend every year repairing the high-grading and other stuff that "week-enders" and claim jumpers do to your property.

    If its not worth paying someone $75 bucks a month - don't worry about it at all.

    B
    "Irony is the rule"

  11. #11
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    Dec 2007
    Grayling, MI
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    Re: your mining claim

    Well I have to go with the make em dig there own holes attitude. That would fix me.

    Surfin
    You slept in peace last night because brave men stood ready to preform violent acts on your behalf!

  12. #12
    us
    Sep 2008
    1

    Re: your mining claim

    depending were your claim is there are people here that will help. for a price or permission to prospect..YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE NATHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT PEOPLE DOWN YOU DO NOT KNOW I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU

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    May 2006
    Mesa, AZ
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    Prospecting

    Re: your mining claim

    Quote Originally Posted by goldhound2
    YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE NATHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT PEOPLE DOWN YOU DO NOT KNOW I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU
    What are you talking about?
    Sincerely,
    Randy Wright
    History Lover

  14. #14
    us
    May 2007
    Western Colorado
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    Re: your mining claim

    Quote Originally Posted by djui5
    Quote Originally Posted by goldhound2
    YOU PEOPLE THAT HAVE NATHING BETTER TO DO THAN PUT PEOPLE DOWN YOU DO NOT KNOW I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU
    What are you talking about?
    Say what
    "Everybody dies"
    "But not everybody lives."

  15. #15
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    Sep 2008
    CSRA
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: your mining claim

    Trying to consider this reasonably here,

    It would seem prudent to get out to CA for a week-long vacation - do or die.

    Meet and greet the regional office BLM folks - get a little face time. Let them know who you are. Bring them doughnuts and coffee and talk to them for a good while, as long as it doesn't interfer with their daily 'battle rhythm.' Be frank about your concerns and get their take on the situation.

    Check to make sure your claim paperwork is in order.

    Check the local papers, look for a private security company or a PI agency. Some cities even have a merchant police or security guards that you can hire or chip in to retain with other claimholders near you.

    Get out the the property and make sure your claim is still visibly marked. Take photos, get GPS coords et. al. Update all YOUR information and paperwork.

    Meet the local Sheriff in the area where your claim is. The Sheriff's office may not have jurisdiction on federal lands, but they sure as hell have a Letter of Agreement with the feds if there is federal land in their county. They ARE your first line of defense because the BLM and DNR are by nature not a law enforcement agency.

    Lastly, make sure you do your yearly improvements and document them.

    It all sounds like a pain in the @$$, but frankly no disrespect meant - you signed up for this when you filed for a claim in CA and you now live in MI. It might be time to either consider leasing it out to someone who'll work it for you, or cut bait and start prospecting in MI.

    I wish you the best in your course of action.
    -Airborne1092

    bellum est praesto

 

 
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