History Channel Story On Jesse James, KGC, And Found Coins

okietreasurehunter

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I'll have some new things for show at this years get together. Never before published pictures of Joe Hunter on two treasure digs and some J Frank Dalton related photos as well. I think we will hold it at the Jesse James Museum in Cement this year. We will be working on a date and time. As always any suggestions are welcome. Even the KGC, Dalton loving crowd is welcome. We don't discriminate. :laughing9:
 

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What? Are we building up to a group hug here? :laughing9:

I appreciate the compliments, I do what I can. :laughing7: And without trying to sound too mushy, Boggy is right about the Meeting Okie puts on every year. It has continued to grow year after year and if you are serious or even just curious about treasure hunting is a good way to spend a day. There is lots of information there you won't find anywhere else and just meeting the other treasure hunters will give you a wealth of info.
 

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alec said:
What? Are we building up to a group hug here? :laughing9:

I appreciate the compliments, I do what I can. :laughing7: And without trying to sound too mushy, Boggy is right about the Meeting Okie puts on every year. It has continued to grow year after year and if you are serious or even just curious about treasure hunting is a good way to spend a day. There is lots of information there you won't find anywhere else and just meeting the other treasure hunters will give you a wealth of info.
I aint hugging either one of you. You both got that 70's porn star mustache thing going on. LMFAO
 

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Not any more Boggy, it got cold outside so I grew a beard!! :laughing9:
 

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It's possible, maybe even probably but it doesn't sound like the normal robbery JJ liked to do. It could have been a robbery of convenience though. I'm not sure about the 2 million price tage either. That could have been the value at the time the story was told by Steve Wilson int he 1970's.

I do know that Frank James spent a lot of time in a certain area looking for "the big one" (his actual words) but he "could never find" it or apparently the clues that would take him to it.

Could this be the pack train of gold? Who knows, but I do know there is a big one still out there that Frank didn't get.
 

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Back in the 70's I checked out the Wilson Oklahoma Treasure book so many
times I thought I had it memorized but now I don't remember if he told where
the gold came from or where it was going. Course I believed all those tales
back then. It doesn't make much sense to me unless it happened between the
mines and smelter deep in old Mexico. Otherwise it sounds like a dud.
 

okietreasurehunter

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I think it's probable. I'm not sure what JJ was doing down by El Paso, but there was a major trail down there that the packtrain could have been traveling on. The Cache Creek crossing and spot where they kicked the gold into the ditch checks out. In my opinion they came back and moved it to several different locations.
 

lastleg

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Okie:

You mean the James gang left a fortune in the dirt to ride all the way to
Minnesota to rob a bank? Then after leaving the Youngers behind all shot up
and emptyhanded they didn't go back to get a bonanza that would have set
them up for life in a safe location?

Logic tells me that the famous James boys never made a big enough score to
stop running from the law. But at least they were smarter than the Reno's who
actually did score big but were dumb enough to get themselves hung.

Good luck to all you guys hunting in OK.
 

okietreasurehunter

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As crazy as it sounds they did leave money here in the ground. That's why Frank came back to find it. He did remove a few of the caches they hid decades before. Some of it has been found by others in the years to follow. I think the plan was to come back once Oklahoma was opened up for settlement and start a big ranch.
 

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I believe the James' put a lot of money in the ground, more than they needed to live a good life. Jesse was a psychopath that robbed just to rob. I think he was doing it for the thrill and the infamy more than the money. Even without the pack train of gold they put down enough stuff for them to live comfortably on for quite a while, if not the rest of their lives but JJ continued to rob.

There are several possibilities of where the gold was coming from and I don't doubt that there were several pack trains of gold and silver criss crossing Texas and Oklahoma. Would JJ steal a few hundred pounds of gold and hide it and then go try to steal something else? I believe he would just because that was his nature.
 

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Jesse James' Hidden Treasure to be rebroadcast today,Wednesday, February 17 @ 2:00 PM Eastern

By the time Jesse James was killed in 1882, he'd stolen over a million and a half dollars according to some estimates--gold, coins and cash that could be worth over $50 million today. History often paints James as a clever outlaw who stole money to finance a lavish criminal lifestyle, a man whose sixteen year long crime spree came to a dramatic halt in 1882 when a fellow gang member betrayed him and shot him dead in the back of the head. But now, a treasure hunt may reveal a totally new story. Was Jesse really stealing for himself, or was he actually secreting away large sums of wealth, in order to finance one of the most clandestine secret societies in American history? Follow a team of treasure hunters searching for where he stashed his riches... and a new truth about Jesse James. Their discoveries may not only re-write the history of why Jesse stole, it could also raise new questions about his death.
Rating: TVPG
Running Time: 120 minutes

History Board Forum on Jesse James' Hidden Treasure
http://boards.history.com/topic/History-Now/Jesse-James-Hidden/520078786&start=60
 

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